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Started by Arro · Dec 15, 2008 · 47postsSMF 2010–26

ArroDec 15, 2008, 12:45 pm · #1

So Sterling and I picked up his new "prize" lol... a 1985 CA20E automatic hatch. $300 bux. I dunno if he's posted about it yet, but if not, here's a thread for it.

We tossed some names around, but in the aftermath of my hallucinations (I was sick w/ flu), I came up with this name, because of the 80's-tastic rack on the top that begs for a longboard. The rack stays, he says.

Anyways I don't want to get into it too much, it's his car not mine, but I took the pics on my phone, so here they are. I tried for 10 minutes to hose this bitch off, but some of this crud is gonna take some serious elbow grease. Maybe even some craZy hi-tech nanomachines to get it clean, I dunno.

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The hellhole it sat in for over 2 years:

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More like a tomb.

200sxkitcarDec 15, 2008, 12:50 pm · #2

102k miles, expect good things to come from this!

sinestroDec 15, 2008, 12:53 pm · #3

well is looks to be in good complete shape, that's a good thing  do i smell a future swap job in the works?

demonic s12Dec 15, 2008, 1:17 pm · #4

thats got some potential...

..after hazmat clears it

DraconisDec 15, 2008, 1:40 pm · #5

Serious about the hazmat.  Why did you get ANOTHER S12.  You havent even finished yours!  Both of you!  Trust me, you only want one at a time.  lol  I've been there and done that!  But then again, I had like 4 going on at one time.

silvia loveDec 15, 2008, 1:44 pm · #6

get some prep-wipe paint solvent. it removes everything except the paint. anything that removes grease,wax or silicone will get that off.

something exactly like this....
http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/pc-14855-6...ver-gsw362.aspx

ArroDec 15, 2008, 1:46 pm · #7
Draconis
Serious about the hazmat.  Why did you get ANOTHER S12.  You havent even finished yours!  Both of you!  Trust me, you only want one at a time.  lol  I've been there and done that!  But then again, I had like 4 going on at one time.


yeah one more and he'll be sideways-Jason

Sorry J, couldn't resist
DraconisDec 15, 2008, 1:49 pm · #8

Well, tell me when you have a total of 5.  Then you can be my status.  That would be CA20E, RB20DET, CA18ET, CA20E and CA18DET.

ArroDec 15, 2008, 2:22 pm · #9

Um, how could you possibly forget VG30E in that list, hmmm?

Come on, slap your forehead. We're waiting

sideways_s12Dec 15, 2008, 2:35 pm · #10
Arro
yeah one more and he'll be sideways-Jason

Sorry J, couldn't resist


HEY!.......You can never have to many s12's hahaha

Draconis
Well, tell me when you have a total of 5.  Then you can be my status.  That would be CA20E, RB20DET, CA18ET, CA20E and CA18DET.


And I've owned more s12's than you just not at one time....haha

oh and the battery is the best looking thing on that car haha congrats sterling for saving another one...I just need a notch and a vg and I'll be happy with every trim s12 haha
silvia loveDec 15, 2008, 2:37 pm · #11

so is this the canidate for the truck conversion????lol

DraconisDec 15, 2008, 2:41 pm · #12
Arro
Um, how could you possibly forget VG30E in that list, hmmm?

Come on, slap your forehead. We're waiting

Actually you're right.  Make that 6 at one time.  I had the auto SE.
DraconisDec 15, 2008, 2:42 pm · #13
sideways_s12
HEY!.......You can never have to many s12's hahaha
And I've owned more s12's than you just not at one time....haha

I've had/bought 13 to date.  You?
sideways_s12Dec 15, 2008, 2:44 pm · #14
Draconis
I've had/bought 13 to date.  You?


Ok Ive had 14 to date so I got you by one lol
DraconisDec 15, 2008, 2:45 pm · #15
sideways_s12
Ok Ive had 14 to date so I got you by one lol

Dang.  So close.  I guess I'll just have to grab another one or two.
sideways_s12Dec 15, 2008, 2:48 pm · #16

do it! I know I will if I can find an auto vg that'll be another one Kendra wants an s12 and she fell in love with this vg at this guys shop but I didn't have the money right then so we had to pass it up...

so there will be another added to the collection when I can find a nice vg

DraconisDec 15, 2008, 2:56 pm · #17

The SEs are nice.  From what I can recall I've had 2 manuals and 1 auto.

200sxkitcarDec 15, 2008, 3:51 pm · #18

Jason, you are right, the battery is almost new! haha

Well, its raining like fuckn hell here, so I pulled it out and got drenched but its nice and clean now!  at least on the outside, LOL  I used a windshield washer/squeege combo thing like are at the gas stations on the pumps, I found it in the hatch, to scrub it down which worked pretty well but I fucked the scrubber up good!  Then I used a bucket and scooped water out of the center channel in the parking lot to help rinse it down!  I would take pics, but... its fuckn raining like hell, lol.  Much better than before... It has sat for at least 5 years, and it shows.  The 2002 looney toons calender in the back was pretty tight, as well as the 4 or 5 floor mats on the pass side.

The reason I grabbed this is pretty simple, the notch is a decent amount of work from being cali register-able, and I wanted a hatch for moving larger things, and an auto for shitty traffic/occasional commuting, and just to have a spare.  Its kinda nice to have two of the same cars.  Nothing major will happen to this car for some time, just a full tune up and maintenance, its actually in fairly good shape, just needs cleaning/refreshening.  I think a full set of Konis, a mod_mastaz coilover conversion for the rear and weld-over sleeves for the front, but only 150lb springs, and a SOLID slam will be in the works, BUT...

Expect the CA20,

and the AUTO,

to stay!
haha

don't expect either to be stock tho!

Nothing like that for awhile tho, so lets not get too crazy out there   i hadn't even intended on starting a build thread, but someone  couldn't contain themselves  

btw, does anyone know of anybody that builds/has parts/info for built Nissan automatic transmissions??  

oh, and I think the interior will be gone, but thats sort of a forgone conclusion haha

silvia loveDec 15, 2008, 3:58 pm · #19
200sxkitcar
Jason, you are right, the battery is almost new! haha

Well, its raining like fuckn hell here, so I pulled it out and got drenched but its nice and clean now!  at least on the outside, LOL  I used a windshield washer/squeege combo thing like are at the gas stations on the pumps, I found it in the hatch, to scrub it down which worked pretty well but I fucked the scrubber up good!  Then I used a bucket and scooped water out of the center channel in the parking lot to help rinse it down!  I would take pics, but... its fuckn raining like hell, lol.  Much better than before... It has sat for at least 5 years, and it shows.  The 2002 looney toons calender in the back was pretty tight, as well as the 4 or 5 floor mats on the pass side.

The reason I grabbed this is pretty simple, the notch is a decent amount of work from being cali register-able, and I wanted a hatch for moving larger things, and an auto for shitty traffic/occasional commuting, and just to have a spare.  Its kinda nice to have two of the same cars.  Nothing major will happen to this car for some time, just a full tune up and maintenance, its actually in fairly good shape, just needs cleaning/refreshening.  I think a full set of Konis, a mod_mastaz coilover conversion for the rear and weld-over sleeves for the front, but only 150lb springs, and a SOLID slam will be in the works, BUT...

Expect the CA20,

and the AUTO,

to stay!
haha
don't expect either to be stock tho!

Nothing like that for awhile tho, so lets not get too crazy out there   i hadn't even intended on starting a build thread, but someone  couldn't contain themselves  
btw, does anyone know of anybody that builds/has parts/info for built Nissan automatic transmissions??  
oh, and I think the interior will be gone, but thats sort of a forgone conclusion haha
i have a spare s13 auto tranny you can have if you pick it up. has everything and only 137k. drove and shifted nice. i dont know if you can use it but its up for grabs.
ArroDec 15, 2008, 4:35 pm · #20

yEah that;s just uber-hick. no thanks.

demonic s12Dec 15, 2008, 4:44 pm · #21

ugh, but youve never seen one in person, as hung, sterling and i can agree on, we have... lol

sam31183Dec 15, 2008, 5:32 pm · #22

you cant get a s10 or colorado tho with a skyline drivetrain...so this is ideal lolz.

200sxkitcarDec 15, 2008, 6:08 pm · #23

I dig the truck!   Its still a skyline, therefore relatively sexy and uuber fast.

Regardless, this likely won't become the truck.  I want a fucked up S12 for that, and this car is actually quite straight.  A truck will be in the future...

Joe, thanks for the offer on the trans, I've actually got a SUPER SWEET hookup with one of the local members  whom I'm picking up a super lo mi auto trans from, and that will probably go in, the current one will come out, and I'll play with that one.  The original one is actually in good shape, it was low on fluid and initially wouldn't go into gear, so I'm going to change the filter and have it flushed, should work out nicely.  The fluid is still decent, this car appears to have been taken care of during its life... and even then, again its only got 102k on the clock, not bad at all.

the underside of this car makes my notch want to cry!  sooo clean

mod_mastazDec 15, 2008, 9:15 pm · #24

For built auto trans, goto Level 10. I hear they do great work and build near indestructible auto trans. So far I've only had Nissan guys talk about them, more so on the Maxima forums and some on Nicoclub. Good find Sterling!

200sxkitcarDec 15, 2008, 9:53 pm · #25

What I want,

what I really really want,

is an auto trans with a manual valve body.

I think it would be SWEET

dunno if anyone has done that tho.  I will check out this Level 10 place...

mod_mastazDec 15, 2008, 10:09 pm · #26

Here's a good read if you're thinking of something crazy. It's for a 240sx, but it'll still work for us haha.

240sx: Paddle Shift Conversion
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/179677

EternalSwapDec 16, 2008, 12:19 am · #27

Dear Sterling,
I hate you.
Sincerely,
Alex

WilkieDec 16, 2008, 12:50 am · #28

Why can't I see my post on the last page with the Skyline truck?

Was it deleted?

DraconisDec 16, 2008, 1:00 am · #29
Wilkie
Why can't I see my post on the last page with the Skyline truck?

Was it deleted?

You talking about the one you posted a pic in?  I see that one.  If you posted another one not a clue and no one has deleted it.
WilkieDec 16, 2008, 1:10 am · #30

Yeah, it was in this thread at first, but appears to have been moved to its own thread.

200sxkitcarDec 16, 2008, 12:53 pm · #31

ohh, Alex, wheres the love? lol

Jason split the truck thing into another thread in coffee shop.

seishukuDec 16, 2008, 4:21 pm · #32
mod_mastaz
Here's a good read if you're thinking of something crazy. It's for a 240sx, but it'll still work for us haha.

240sx: Paddle Shift Conversion
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/179677
That's pretty cool, but really in the end, it's still a sloppy slushy automatic... Though it might not be too bad with higher light pressure and uprated clutches.
ArroDec 16, 2008, 4:41 pm · #33

What makes an automatic "slushy" are the shift plates... I don't fully understand planetary automatic transmissions, but i know you can change the shift feel.

200sxkitcarDec 16, 2008, 6:49 pm · #34

Its actually all about hydraulic pressure in the unit, and how quickly the fluid moves thru the valve body, more than the discs.  I'd likely keep the same type discs just mod the valve body so the pressure is slightly higher and the engagement more firm.

you can mod an auto trans so that it shifts so hard it puts you in the back seat, but I'm not going to get that nuts with it obviously.  Its more finding the info on how to do these mods, I can look at the hydraulic system diagram and understand the movement of fluid thru the system and mod as needed, just as you would an electrical diagram (only more complex) but I'd rather find someone/info if its been done before and how.  I believe that the auto trans in an S12 and later S-chassis are virtually the same, with the S12 being more hydraulic (simpler, often easier to mod) so much should carry thru.

200sxkitcarDec 16, 2008, 8:20 pm · #35

So the car has had an overheating problem since we first started it, never actually overheated but the needle has been creeping up too high.  Today while cleaning I discovered after a short drive around the apartment parking lot that when the engine is getting to the too-hot point that the upper radiator hose is still completely cold- the thermostat is stuck shut.  So tomorrow before the car goes into storage I'm going to throw in a new t-stat and then it should be not too bad!

ArroDec 16, 2008, 8:22 pm · #36
200sxkitcar
Its actually all about hydraulic pressure in the unit, and how quickly the fluid moves thru the valve body, more than the discs.  I'd likely keep the same type discs just mod the valve body so the pressure is slightly higher and the engagement more firm.

I don't know how different the Nissan transmissions are from other manufacturers, but that's what the shift plate does, it essentially directs the flow of the fluid, and modifying the plate's design modifies the delivery. Shift plates go over the top of this:

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I'd actually be curious to see what a RMVB was like on this... I know you mentioned it before. Chrysler guys do it. It's not for me, but it would be fun sometimes.
200sxkitcarDec 16, 2008, 8:40 pm · #37

Usually its just a modified valve body vs another added component, it varies highly based on manufacturer.  Nissan is fairly conventional, Chrysler trans design can be quite 'different' altogether.

ArroDec 16, 2008, 9:16 pm · #38

because half of the chrysler engineers are weetahded

200sxkitcarDec 17, 2008, 12:06 pm · #39

washed

Still cleaning it, it needs it badly lol

DraconisDec 17, 2008, 12:13 pm · #40

Hey Sterling, you jacked Arro's parking spot.  I know so cause he parked his Neon there last time I was down!  Man, some guest you are.     Now, we just need your other one there Sterling and mine.  Mmmmmmm maybe in 9 months?

LeegamerAug 24, 2010, 8:40 am · #41

I forgot how sexy a stock mk1 hatch looks.

200sxkitcarOct 4, 2010, 3:20 pm · #42
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EightySix200SXOct 4, 2010, 11:13 pm · #43

shes fucking hot!

vg30e_x2_200sxOct 5, 2010, 12:47 am · #44

Sterling is it actually running?

ArroOct 5, 2010, 3:23 am · #45

Randy, third pic from the bottom:

http://club-s12.org/v3/index.php?page=13

vg30e_x2_200sxOct 5, 2010, 12:00 pm · #46

Oh no kidding. When did you guys get it going?

sam31183Oct 5, 2010, 1:34 pm · #47

roof racks are how its done son!