Pierce Ford's 1985 Turbo Build Thread

Saavedro88Alright. After BSing around for ages and days, I can't find anything I can do to make this car turbo for cheap. So I've decided to go ahead and just drop the engine in NA for now, Maybe do a DOHC build in the future.

Got a couple questions though:
Is there a manual rack I can look into for drifting this car? Can I convert my PS rack to manual?

I have a pretty much complete S13 front suspension setup, should I do all that before I drop the engine back in?

Info and input, as well as opinions, are always appreciated.

JayIt's worth getting and installing the single cam CA power steering hoses and making it work, or getting another line made to connect the two.

Do the suspension after the motor. It's easier to work on a motor on a car that isn't dropped on coilovers

SO pissed right now. I spent all afternoon yesterday getting everything ready to drop the KA back in today. Woke up early this morning so I could buy some Hockey Pucks to make some motor mounts.

Spent two and a half hours  looking for some god damn hockey pucks.

I found 1. ONE.

Guess the engine isn't going back in today. Super pissed.

Saavedro88SO pissed right now. I spent all afternoon yesterday getting everything ready to drop the KA back in today. Woke up early this morning so I could buy some Hockey Pucks to make some motor mounts.

Spent two and a half hours  looking for some god damn hockey pucks.

I found 1. ONE.

Guess the engine isn't going back in today. Super pissed.

JayAnd that one was probably overpriced too....

lol you will hate puck mounts oh so much....maybe your engine runs smoother...but I had pucks in when I originally swapped in my ca18det....once you were into the revs it wasnt bad.....but at idle it would almost shake your fillings out....the next day I found some s13 mounts and had them sent to me lol So much nicer! I was told puck mounts werent too bad....but either theyre lying fucks or Im a pussy! AND IM NO PUSSY! *flexes*

KustamogenI was told puck mounts werent too bad....

lol I remember sitting at a light and keeping it at 1500rpm and still it was rough enough to shake off my rearview mirror......if solid mounts are worse than puck mounts I dont know why/how ppl can stand them

Kustamogenif solid mounts are worse than puck mounts I dont know why/how ppl can stand them

lol STILL!....I wouldnt even want a track car that horridly uncomfortable. Ive learned my lesson with mounts

Kustamogenlol STILL!....I wouldnt even want a track car that horridly uncomfortable. Ive learned my lesson with mounts

I raced go karts! lol.....those motor mounts were nice!

KustamogenI raced go karts!

they hurt my kidneys

but I was young I could take it! Im old balls now an want to be able to sip my tea at a stop light

Kustamogenthey hurt my kidneys

but I was young I could take it! Im old balls now an want to be able to sip my tea at a stop light

Saavedro88$2.50. Not too bad. I didn't get it though, what am I gonna do with just one??

lol I have like 30 pucks around my basement and back yard.....too bad you didnt live closer

JayThrow it at the store manager with furious intent, yelling at the top of your lungs "You can't have just one!"

Or just hold onto it until he gets his next one. Buy it, why not? If it doesn't move, there's a good chance they only stock one

Kustamogenlol I have like 30 pucks around my basement and back yard.....too bad you didnt live closer

EternalSwapyeah, but youre canadian.
like we have baseballs and shit here laying around in our backyards

EternalSwapyeah, but youre canadian.
like we have baseballs and shit here laying around in our backyards

Jay

Is THAT what I'm supposed to do!?

Saavedro88It's ok, you're in Wisconsin, you can get away with it.

JayBeing from wisconsin nets me a lot of excuses and benefits, actually..........

Saavedro88Such as??

Jay
HOBBYIST VEHICLE REGISTRATION!!! -benefit

Saavedro88I don't know what that is, but it sounds awesome and I WANT IT!

Yeah we have something like that here in VA, called Antique registration, basically you don't have to have any state inspections, but you're still legally required to conform to the state laws of vehicle upkeep (i.e.: if you got pulled over and the cop pulled an impromptu inspection, you'd HAVE to pass), and you can only drive the vehicle to and from car shows...

Legally...

Saavedro88Yeah we have something like that here in VA, called Antique registration, basically you don't have to have any state inspections, but you're still legally required to conform to the state laws of vehicle upkeep (i.e.: if you got pulled over and the cop pulled an impromptu inspection, you'd HAVE to pass), and you can only drive the vehicle to and from car shows...

Legally...

JayI remember reading up on the your antique laws... Something about them really made me shake my head in wonder. I'll have to put a link in here when I find it

Saavedro88Dude, lol... There are a LOT of things about this pathetic state that make me shake my head EVERY DAY.

BreadboxFor Real.

Nice build so far.

Aight, so I log on today for like the first time in 3 months or whatever, and EVERYTHING is changed. Not sure how I feel about the new look, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

So. Today I went to put the KA back in. Got my hockey pucks drilled through, got my AC stuff removed and everything. Set the engine in, but the mounts don't line up to the Pucks. Anyone else had any problem getting things lined up?

Update, Got the engine in, everything's lined up, my Tranny mount isn't quite right, but I'll fix that later.

I'm trying to wire everything up now, and I'm like... DUDE. NOTHING makes sense right now. I've been staring at the CA to KA wiring guide that Sterling put up, but it DOESN'T make ANY sense.

This is what I have.



The alternator plug was no problem. Cut and solder, no big deal. I'm pretty sure that female spade is for the oil pressure sender, it's a straight black wire. Then I have these two other wires, the half circle eyelet is straight black, and the full circle eyelet with the rubber shroud is straight white, but it's MUCH to small to fit over the alternator stud.

Then I have this:



I'm pretty sure this is my lower harness, It's long enough to be (I've got it looped around to show you all the plugs that are on it). This is the only black and yellow wire I have, but it has this female connector on it, so isn't it supposed to get plugged into the male terminal coming off my starter? Why don't I have any other wires for the starter? I have nothing with a big enough eyelet on it to go over the starter except this:



Massive black w/ red wire with an eyelet large enough to to over the alternator OR the starter studs, and it's long enough to reach the starter. I was assuming this was for the Alternator, cause it's the only thing that fits and it comes straight off the positive battery terminal, but then I don't have any power to the starter...

Any help would be SUPER appreciated.

1st pic,
yea spade is for oil pressure

the half circle is the ground on the alternator, the full is the exciter(power). make the hole bigger to make it fit on the alt.

the second pic
the black/yellow wire is for the starter, its the start signal
the three other plugs are for the tranny, like nuetral switch, 5th gear switch and reverse switch.

the last pic

does not go to alt, that goes directly to the starter from pos on battery

hope that helped

First pic
Alternator Positive = round rubber piece
Alternator ground = round no rubber piece
Oil pressure = spade connector

Second pic
Black/Yellow wire starter signal
Rest not used

Third pic
Starter power

sweet progress! id help with the wiring. for some food... chipoltle actually

i come down to richmond like every week

your mudflaps are the shit. I want.

David B on 09:22:50 AM / 09-Nov-10sweet progress! id help with the wiring. for some food... chipoltle actually

i come down to richmond like every week

Ok. So what have people been doing to hook up their PS rack to the SOHC KA pump?

Ahem...

http://www.youtube.com/user/saavedro88?feature=mhum

Turn down your speakers, dat bitch is LOUD!

Got the Transmission mount bolted up (had to be re-modified. STILL didn't wanna fit but she's in there now). Polyurethane reinforced it, hopefully that'll be dry by the time I get back on Saturday.   Tongue



Went to Chesterfield Auto Parts cause I saw last night that they had a freshly placed S13 in the yard. I was intending to not have power steering in the S12 when I took out the KA, so I just cut up all the PS lines thinking I wouldn't need them. So I picked up the PS lines, a cooling fan and clutch (because mine have mysteriously come up missing...), The correct year model intake tube, a power steering pump belt and tensioner pulley and a headlight for my Civic all for about 60$. God bless America.

Got pretty much everything put on tonight, probably would have been able to have it running, when low and behold, just as I'm tightening the last of the fan clutch bolts, The water pump starts dripping out coolant. VERY slowly at first, from underneath. But by the time I had retrieved my trusty Mirror-on-a-stick, it had graduated to a steady dribble. Sho' nuff, leaking from out da weep hole. FUCK. One more thing I have to buy (that I do NOT have money for). Deadline's getting closer, and I'm about to spend an entire week in Ohio...   huh I'm starting to get stressed about this thing...

Nissan and deadline dont mix.

EDIT: Almost like GT5 and Release date

ive got a pump you can have for free. lol

just distance parts us

?? What is that? A converted to manual steering rack?

^^^yesir!

Eff. I wish I'd known about that before I wrestled that KA ps line in...

The big one! The One and Only Preston Rally and boy was it fun!  yes

Seeded 46th, got up to 5th or 6th overall before NS front tyre locked against strut. Nothing obviously broken but too cold to check and I need a rest.

The old gal was something different and attracted a bit of attention at the start, and suprised quite alot on the road (myself included, went really well!)

The aftermath!





Thanks to the AA for getting home!



Silvia made it as one of the 'teaser' pictures from the offical photographer, more pics on the way, bought them all and he's ok with posting them up to share  yay!

I just love the look of an s12 covered with dirt and mud...it looks like those cars belong on dirt road going sideways in a shower of mud!

glad it performed well also, way to go!

tommy on 02:53:25 PM / 11-Dec-10I just love the look of an s12 covered with dirt and mud...it looks like those cars belong on dirt road going sideways in a shower of mud!

glad it performed well also, way to go!

taking apart the rack CAN be a pain in the ass if you dont have a good pipe wrench for gland nuts