Polyurethane bushings?

What kinda benefit will you get from using polyurethane bushings/end links as listed here: http://www.club-s12.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1248 ?


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1988 Black SE, my tuning inspiration

little less body roll since the sway bar will be able to do what it was intended to do
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As Bart said, as far as the endlinks go, yes.

The real gain here is the control arm bushings being polyurethane. These will tighten up the ride quite a bit and help control body roll as well. The endlinks being polyurethane will help the sway bars do their job, but what is exciting there is that the control arm bushings are poly, too. I should get a set of those icon_smile.gif
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where can i find poiyurethane bushing for my '88 s12

we're still getting that figured out..be patient...they will come
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
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I just use the universal ones for my from and rear end links.

http://www.energysuspension.com/endl.html

I don't remember if I used the stock spacers and I don't have the stock # with me.
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Performance Suspension Technologies has a front end kit for the 280Z, and as we share the same front suspension (don't we?) you should be able to get the kit. It's like $150.

http://www.p-s-t.com
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the ones for p-s-t are for a 79' to 83' i have a 88' s12 will they work still

let me know please

and dose anyone know where i can find them for the rear and will the z31 fit

Though most of our suspension is based on the 280ZX the control arms are nothing alike. Our control arms are more like a smaller 300ZX 84-86 Z31 arm. I know for fact you can swap in an 84-86 Z31 arm if you have the acompaning strut rod. I believe it is possible to swap in a 280ZX arm if the same model sway bar will fit (though this is really just speculation). 2 ideas for some one who REALLY wants urethane arm bushings up front.
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[jeff]

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"You only hurt the one you love."
That may be true, but better said:
"You only hurt the one who loves you."

im buying that urethane kit you found for the z31 soon so we will know for sure if the front bushing will work with our stock control arms
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

I have a set of Z31 arms sitting around here some were. The bushings are not the same. The 280ZX is the one I'm not sure about.
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[jeff]

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[like me, its starting to fall apart]

"You only hurt the one you love."
That may be true, but better said:
"You only hurt the one who loves you."

ok so that answers that question now did you get a price about just the rear kit
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
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the z31 is for the rear end not for the front the front from the 280's so can any one tell me were i can a kit for the rear for a z31. what site?

click on the this link..and you shall have

http://www.club-s12.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1248
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

How much they go by anyways? icon_question.gif
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prices are as follows

rear control arm bushings are 14.95each
spring perches are 8.95
and the endlinks are 16.95each
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

I talked to a local frame shop just now and he said that it's "typical" for dealers not to carry front control arm bushings because it is hard to install them without damaging them. Supposedly, they're not a very good "candidate" for replacement. It seems strange to me though that nevertheless, prothane sells a kit for the 300zx which includes front control arm bushings (i have it right here as part of the master kit!!). And if the front is so hard, what about the rears? What makes them any different from the front? It sounds like the frame shop might just be trying to justify their laziness when it comes to helping me out here.

The frame shop recommended that I run the car as it is, and if I just can't stand it then they'll "find a way" to replace them for me. I'm sure he means an OEM replacement though. Maybe he'll purchase the arms and press off the bushings and press them onto mine... then he'll return the arms to the dealer, saying they're an incomplete part. I'm just speculating. Sorry to go post happy here guys, but I really want to pry at this issue from every angle possible. As cheesy as it sounds, we've got to put our brains together if we want to make these S12s handle well. I'm just not the kind of person who gives up easily.

EDIT: i made a long enough post to start a new page here... if you haven't seen them, go back to page 2 and read the other posts that in made in the last 30 min =)
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1993 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo AWD >400hp weekend car
1985 200SX w/CA20E & I.R.S. >Daily Driver/Autocrosser =)

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http://www.club-s12.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=56314

im going t order a front bushing for the s12 and alos for a 280zx and see if they will work since our fornt suspesnion is basically the same as a 280zx
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

didn't someone post that our front control arms are different from 280zx though?
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Riyan

1993 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo AWD >400hp weekend car
1985 200SX w/CA20E & I.R.S. >Daily Driver/Autocrosser =)

NORCAL DRIFT EVENT!
http://www.club-s12.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=56314

ya but i dont know if that was with real proof of having both bushings side by side or more of eying a difference
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

just so you guys know... the Z31 master bushing kit has lots of useful stuff for us.

Sway bar bushings + end links
Front strut rod bushings (yes, Z31 front strut rod bushings!)
Rear control arm bushings

I haven't tried the front control arm bushings, but I have a feeling that if the strut rod bushings match, then control arms may as well. It's weird, considering that we have the 280ZX front suspension. I will warn you guys though that the Z31 end links need some parts from your old end links, and that the sway bar bushings are slightly tight of a fit, but they work.
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Riyan

1993 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo AWD >400hp weekend car
1985 200SX w/CA20E & I.R.S. >Daily Driver/Autocrosser =)

NORCAL DRIFT EVENT!
http://www.club-s12.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=56314

well the tension rod bushings or located ont he chasis, the whole control arm is much different then the z31 even thought they share the same tension rod
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

so I guess that kills the dream for front control arm bushings. icon_cry.gif while I'm here, let me warn you guys that you will probably need a front-end alignment after you change the bushings. i definitely do now.

i changed my struts at the same time but i believe that only effects camber if anything. the tc rod bushings affect toe and caster if i understand correctly. you may need to shim your tc (tension-compression) rods or remove existing rod shims to align the car after swapping to poly tc rod bushings. the alignment shop will do this for you.
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Riyan

1993 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo AWD >400hp weekend car
1985 200SX w/CA20E & I.R.S. >Daily Driver/Autocrosser =)

NORCAL DRIFT EVENT!
http://www.club-s12.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=56314

ya true but what i wanna do is get or make some nice full swivel ball tension rods to get rid of all the flex from the bushings in the tesnion rod
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bart
'86 INTERCOOLED Turbo
1/4 mile: 14.964 @93.02mph
CEO of:
"Barts Parts Incorporated"
http://geocities.com/bartc_j
http://members.cardomain.com/bartc_2

I've been waiting on some pix from michael about that. In theory it wouldn't be that hard but you'd prob have to change the pivot point and I'm not sure what that would do to the general geometry of the front suspension?
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[jeff]

87/88 SE V6 icon_mrgreen.gif
[like me, its starting to fall apart]

"You only hurt the one you love."
That may be true, but better said:
"You only hurt the one who loves you."