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my buddy has two hks coilovers for 100 bucks, hell cut weld etc get them in for 120
he told me its probally possible to just run it where the strut sits,
can someone explain if this is true, or what exactly is needed to be done
thanks
btw im SRA 1984
This post has been edited by David B: Jan 26 2009, 11:24 PM
Not possible, the strut of an S13 is far too wide, it would not fit in the shock mount area for the S12.
-Dan
take off the springs, and just put the struts in. then put the springs in the stock location with an adjustable perch
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RB25sx - SLPR @ Jan 27 2009, 12:53 AM
Not possible, the strut of an S13 is far too wide, it would not fit in the shock mount area for the S12.
-Dan
THE ONLY S13 COMPATIBLE SWAP OPTION is S13 ***COILOVERS***, the STOCK style S13 fronts WILL NOT WORK.
S13 REAR coilovers WILL NOT WORK. You need to do what Dan said.
We don't need to go over this so many times. The reason why no one has done it, is because it's not meant to happen.
im going to go with rage, were going to be cutting and welding, so no problem
yeah cut and weld that's the way to do it. I have s13 coilovers in the rear and I saw another on the forum as well. and then their is racesilvia but that's a different level of cutting and welding.
here is a pic of mine. the other guy that did it used large steel tubes instead of making boxes like I did.
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This post has been edited by nismo200sx16: Jan 27 2009, 09:30 PM
David, that kinda work is something even Sterling says he'd never do. And he's leaps and bounds ahead of your welding skills. So like Umai Naa says, we've beat this subject to death, and unless you have PRO level fab skills, it's not meant to happen.
my friend should be helping me, im going to look at it over with him and figure it out
update soon
I hope he has some engineering skills, because you can't just rough eyeball things.
GUYS
He is NOT talking about doing ALL that subframe/reinforcement work.
Read again,
rage @ Jan 26 2009, 07:00 PM take off the springs, and just put the struts in. then put the springs in the stock location with an adjustable perch
An additional note from Ozchuck about breaking down S13 rear coilovers for use in the rear of an S12:
Word of caution though, Research the schock length, you want to use a coilover with a longer stroke, so one from coilovers that can normally go above stock height are recommended.
This is because I've run into the problem where my shocks can compress a LOT more than they can extend, and I have lost lots of suspension travel, and I get the rear end jumping when i go a bump, causing a spin
(It actually took the D1 drivers a long time of head scratching to figure out why they were having such intermittant control issues with my car, then Hoshino said to me "Maybe to be checking coilobaa up an down, is good to do"
So I did, and have found that yeah, suspension travel is important.
I could simply cut down the springs to free shock travel up, but then I'll have issues with spring de-seating and whatnot, thus i have to re-buy rear coilovers.
Blame the stupid difference between the shock mounts and spring mounts, they put the S12 spring mounts too close together, so normal combos dont work.
Perhaps it really is better to buy a separate Adjustable shock absorber, then get some spare springs designed to suit coilovers in the rear.
The way I read it, it was preventing upward travel. In other words, the shocks were very close to being at full extension.
Fear not. Depending on the length of the threaded pin at the top of the shock, you could add a spacer between the top of the shock and the body, or cut off the lower shock mount on the axle housing, and fab one up that sits higher. A combination of both would problay be a good band-aid solution.
Remember, a shock's ideal working range is around halfway between full compression, and full extension. The further you stray away from this with the vehicle at it's resting hieght (as it sits when the car is stationary), the less effective it will be.
Ah, I think you may be correct. Either way tho, as you say, it could be worked out.
I also want to add btw completely off topic to the coilover thing, BUT if you wanted to do the spring/shock SEPARATELY on the SLA cars, you can narrow an IRS shock and it will fit in the tighter lower bracket that is on the axle. Currently, on my IRS car, I have a IRS shock that was narrowed at the bottom mount for a solid axle car, which I then just put washers to space it back out wider for my IRS.
Camaro rear shocks are perfect for lowered SRAs according to a few members on here. As for the spring perch, I have already found a bunch of weld on perches to replace the stock one, BUT I know if I looked harder, I could probably find you a spring perch that'll fit over the stock teardrop on the SRA also. Man I wish I had an SRA coupe. If you want me to look around, lemme know.
I'll try and get Matty (Ozchuck) to drop in, and reitterate on that piece of text you quoted, Stirling. Maybe he can clear it up for us some more.
mod_mastaz @ Jan 28 2009, 04:41 AM
Camaro rear shocks are perfect for lowered SRAs according to a few members on here. As for the spring perch, I have already found a bunch of weld on perches to replace the stock one, BUT I know if I looked harder, I could probably find you a spring perch that'll fit over the stock teardrop on the SRA also. Man I wish I had an SRA coupe. If you want me to look around, lemme know.
I wouldn't go anywhere near Monroe to be honest.
Me neither, AGXs, Illuminas or Koni yellows are the way to go. S12 owners are on a budget though...
David. If you know how low you want to go, why not just get a shorter spring and good Camaro shocks? I'd understand if you already have adjustable fronts and want to do the same for the rear.
