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Ashley's S12 Awesomeness

Started by ashleyanne · Aug 14, 2010 · 135postsSMF 2010–26

ashleyanneAug 14, 2010, 4:35 pm · #1

So I'm not quite sure if it's too early to start documenting on my car. I figure it would be fun to just be able to keep track of everything that I'm doing, and then by the time it's done, I'll be able to look back at my progress. Not only will I be able to enjoy my car when it's super baller, but I'll have a reminder of how much hard work and learning it took to get where I'll be. I'm super excited.

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Like I said in my welcome thread, I plan to throw a CA18DET into it. I have intentions of drifting it. I love how clean it is, although there are minor imperfections.

danginaAug 14, 2010, 5:17 pm · #2

Welcome to the club! We need more members of the opposite sex! Car is so clean - I like it!

KustamogenAug 14, 2010, 5:43 pm · #3

members of the opposite sex dont like old cars (in general) hahaha

I still think Iggy will end up finding this and thieving it

sam31183Aug 14, 2010, 5:54 pm · #4

i need to finish my silver ca18det hatch one day...and iggy needs to find another silver hatch...that way we can start a roaming street gang of silver 18det hatches...call ourselves the turbo deloreans.

KustamogenAug 14, 2010, 5:55 pm · #5

I call mine the turbo ae86!

GrantAug 14, 2010, 9:19 pm · #6

Mine is gonna be the red v6 pulsar!

MaxpowAug 14, 2010, 10:04 pm · #7

Lies there's no girls on the internet.

xxstreetbikesxxAug 14, 2010, 11:06 pm · #8

lol ^

Your car is so clean. just a engine swap and a turbo, and your golden.

IggyEGuanaAug 15, 2010, 12:25 am · #9
sam31183i need to finish my silver ca18det hatch one day...and iggy needs to find another silver hatch...that way we can start a roaming street gang of silver 18det hatches...call ourselves the turbo deloreans.
YESS!!!
ashleyanneAug 15, 2010, 11:28 am · #10

YESSS!
I'm very excited about turbo Delorians. :]

So, my car has a killswitch.

I'm pretty excited about that, most awesome security device ever. Will come in handy as my car becomes more and more baller, even though I plan on getting an alarm anyway. That won't be for a while though.

sam31183Aug 15, 2010, 2:31 pm · #11

my car came with a push button start...but it was dangling by the ignition...I moved it to inside the cubby hole underneath where the stereo is supposed to be...now whenever I go to drive some one elses car I reach down there for the stupid non existent push button start.

I will try to come up with some turbo delorean stickers later when i get a chance! lol!

XanoAug 15, 2010, 2:42 pm · #12
sam31183my car came with a push button start...but it was dangling by the ignition...I moved it to inside the cubby hole underneath where the stereo is supposed to be...now whenever I go to drive some one elses car I reach down there for the stupid non existent push button start.

I will try to come up with some turbo delorean stickers later when i get a chance! lol!
this makes me think of how i reach for a clutch pedal every time i get into any auto car to drive.
JayAug 15, 2010, 3:02 pm · #13
Xanothis makes me think of how i reach for a clutch pedal every time i get into any auto car to drive.
This
And you have no idea how depressing it is when I do it in the BMW, of all things......
ashleyanneAug 15, 2010, 8:29 pm · #14

Aw way to take all the fun out of a Beemer. That's pretty fail, I'm not gonna lie.

This makes me think of drive-by-wire cars. THAT is depressing. I drove one, and then I had to drive an older Volvo, which made me realize how much cars actually respond. It was lame when I was stepping on the gas and there was a delay in movement.

Navy_Mech2Aug 15, 2010, 8:36 pm · #15

Shit, my mazda's throttle plate never fully opens even when i floor it. AND it starts closing from 5500 rpm to the redline. Its mazda's idea of improving fuel economy.

JayAug 15, 2010, 11:15 pm · #16
ashleyanneAw way to take all the fun out of a Beemer. That's pretty fail, I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie either. It is... ESPECIALLY on an E30.... HOWEVER! All I need is a single mass flywheel, and a manual driveshaft, and I have everything else to swap her over.
Do that, Throw in one of my LSD's (I haz a 2.93, a 3.73, and a 4.10), and have a rip or two...
She will be a BMW, not a wannabe soon enough

Edit: Twice actually... I have 2 of everything else
EightySix200SXAug 16, 2010, 8:29 pm · #17
ashleyanneYESSS!
I'm very excited about turbo Delorians. :]
So, my car has a killswitch.

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It was dangling under my dash, and I've since then tucked it away. But my car definitely won't start with it not in ON position. I'm pretty excited about that, most awesome security device ever. Will come in handy as my car becomes more and more baller, even though I plan on getting an alarm anyway. That won't be for a while though.

car looks good! on a side note its not a very wise idea to post pics of where the switch is located. (on a public forum) relocate it! that is the most common place ppl look for kill switches when stealing a car. just my two cents.
Wolf DilworthAug 16, 2010, 10:12 pm · #18

Welcome, glad to see the Lass's on the site.  Now put down the make-up and get sweaty...  

Seriously though, your nails are just the right length to be useful, I find it handy to have some nails to slip washers into tight spots and such.  When I was active duty my coworkers found it odd but I could get those tough jobs done faster.

Peace, Wolf

fyneyoungstunnaAug 17, 2010, 9:41 am · #19

welcome and good luck on your ca18det swap, have a friend here in CO who just completed his and he loves it. hes starting to drift it now.

i love the thought of pink wheels, but better on a notch(i got some going on mine)

heres a basis for my idea on it:
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ashleyanneAug 17, 2010, 11:02 pm · #20
EightySix200SXcar looks good! on a side note its not a very wise idea to post pics of where the switch is located. (on a public forum) relocate it! that is the most common place ppl look for kill switches when stealing a car. just my two cents.


Yeah, this is true. *facepalm* Well now I feel dumb.

So guess what?

1. I wish that I could go on the forums while I'm at work, but my phone's browser is retarded.
2. I have a story.

Yesterday, I was on my way to work, and my dash lights were on. Fuel, seatbelt, e brake, coolant, battery light...and my headlights seem dim. Alternator, I think.

Now I get to work, and I let my car sit. It's 4:30 in the morning and it's dark plus I need to be at work. My temp gauge doesn't climb any more than usual (about a 1/4 of the way) but I pop my hood, and all I hear is sizzling. Awesome. My car sits for three hours til breaktime and I go out there to put water into the radiator. I pop my hood, everything seems fine, and I dump the water into the radiator. Turns out it's full. So I start my car to let it suck up the water and right away I hear this awful noise. I look to where my fan is, only to see that it's snapped off, sitting on my belts and hitting them.

 and before they did so, my hood opened fine. The release is hard as hell to pull, any ideas?

Much appreciated.
MaxpowAug 17, 2010, 11:15 pm · #21

Sick. E-Fan time.

sam31183Aug 17, 2010, 11:58 pm · #22

more like swap time...better park that thing and start pulling the boat anchor now!

MaxpowAug 18, 2010, 12:03 am · #23

I guess. Its just fan and belts right? No biggie.

EightySix200SXAug 18, 2010, 12:26 am · #24

I think Sam is reffering to the ca20

sam31183Aug 18, 2010, 12:28 am · #25

hahaha, sorry guys...i have about as much love for the 20e as jay does...

EightySix200SXAug 18, 2010, 12:31 am · #26

I have Brand new oem fan clutch in stk and I can get you a used fan if interested lemme know I can work u a very good deal. Actual fan maybe from an s13 tho but it will work.

All I can say is my 20e has shit on cars both on track and at canyons ca20 is also a damn reliable motor if maintained as any motor would be but Nissan did build a solid piece its just slow

JayAug 18, 2010, 3:39 am · #27
sam31183hahaha, sorry guys...i have about as much love for the 20e as jay does...

Love? no, there is no love for that. period.
Stopping my rant before it starts....

Ashley, I urge you, swap time.
xxstreetbikesxxAug 18, 2010, 7:38 am · #28

lol.. and do a crazy monster swap.. lots of freakin power lol

Ca20es are only good for economy.. nothing else.

IggyEGuanaAug 18, 2010, 1:39 pm · #29

never saw a water pump fail that way

changing it is pretty easy.  if ur not too experienced with automotive work its best to google up some universal tips for water pump swaps.  also do urself a hugh favor a refer to the FSM for the exact procedure.  its available somewhere here in a sticky.  i havent messed with a 20e for quite a while but im pretty sure u dont have to touch the timing belt if u dont want to.  it would be a good time to change it if it hasnt been done though.  refer to the FSM for that as well.  GL

sam31183Aug 18, 2010, 3:29 pm · #30

I have always had to mess with the timing while doing the water pump on the 20e...and it never ends well as i despise the timing belt tensioner on the 20e....this is one of the main reasons why i hate the 20e. There is no doubt some trick I have missed that prevents you from having to mess with it....but it shouldnt be as hard as i have made it out to be...it just looks like a giant pita once you get so far.

I saw ashley quoted me in her sig....that is freaking win!

200sxkitcarAug 18, 2010, 10:52 pm · #31

You need to remove the timing belt to change the water pump, iirc.

I believe the tensioner gets in the way of the water pump bolts, thus you have to remove the t-belt, basically.

New water pump is like $30 or less.  I have at least 3 fans in stock (haha) and other parts, so if you need, etc.

If you're not super comfortable with the work, I can do a full pictured how-to, seeing as I have all the necessary pics, I just haven't gotten around to doing it.  If you follow the FSM (download on here in the General Tech section's stickies) it is fairly straightforward, you already have quite a bit out of the way.  I do recommend an impact on that 22mm crank bolt to get it loose btw, its not impossible otherwise, but makes life easier.

I've not found a fix for the hood pop-up issue, on cars I've had with the problem, a bungee cord of sufficient length so I can pull it up a bit while grabbing the release has usually worked.

GL with the build and keep us updated with pics!

ashleyanneAug 19, 2010, 10:30 pm · #32

Today failed.

I got all my belts off, and found out that my timing belt is brand new, pretty much, after I already bought one, ha.

I appreciate all the parts that people have for sale, haha. But I got it. Autozone FTW. I had actually called and ordered parts through Nissan on Monday, just in case Autozone wouldn't suffice. Turns out even OEM they can't order fans for the S12 because they're too old and don't make them anymore. For the time being, I'm going to use my old one just because I don't have the money for an e-fan. Soon though! I promise :]

Scootin' ScottAug 19, 2010, 11:48 pm · #33

I believe the ones from the 240sx fit as well...I did mine the other way though...took the fan off my ca20 and put it on my KA 'cause the KA one was f'ed up.

EightySix200SXAug 20, 2010, 12:05 am · #34
ashleyanneToday failed.

I got all my belts off, and found out that my timing belt is brand new, pretty much, after I already bought one, ha.

I appreciate all the parts that people have for sale, haha. But I got it. Autozone FTW. I had actually called and ordered parts through Nissan on Monday, just in case Autozone wouldn't suffice. Turns out even OEM they can't order fans for the S12 because they're too old and don't make them anymore. For the time being, I'm going to use my old one just because I don't have the money for an e-fan. Soon though! I promise :]

ive ordered and recieved a fan before. sounds like they just dont wanna deal with it. i work for nissan in the parts dept backcounter parts. i woulda hooked u up but its all good its ur money not mine. personally i hate autozone its oem,denso, or nothing. then again im a brand whore.
200sxkitcarAug 20, 2010, 1:01 pm · #35

I wouldn't use the old fan, its unbalanced now because of the damage, and could tear up your new pump quickly.

sam31183Aug 20, 2010, 2:25 pm · #36

i concur...pull the 20e out and go pick up an 18det from an importer. Doooooooo It. You want to be a turbo delorean!

ashleyanneAug 21, 2010, 12:28 pm · #37

Getting really defeated by the car. So the timing belt tensioner allen is stripped. It's between a 7mm and a 6mm (7 being too big, 6 being too small). It's almost completely rounded out.

I tried hammering a 7 into it, and none the less, I haven't been successful. Lots of stress-- the two guys who said they would help me out have both been lagging for a week. I don't have rides anywhere except to get to work.

I was going to try to use pliers to get it out since the hammering/filing idea didn't work. Surprisingly, neither I or any of my roommates have pliers. I need a ride to get some.

So. Incredibly. Frustrated.

Picture time?

Zip Tie timing belt clamp:

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Don't worry, contents of catch-pan are not from my car, it was just to catch the water.

Stripped P.O.S
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New water pump!!!
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Me! (Ha, proof I'm a girl) Sitting on my S12's hood:
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How else do I get the stripped allen bolt off?

KustamogenAug 21, 2010, 12:34 pm · #38

aim the camera a tad lower next time....or a lil more zoomed out. You could still be a boy with girly features and long hair. Proof is in the chesticles!

and as for removing the bolt.....have you tried those E-Z Outs or whatever they are called for use one stripped screws? you can get a whole set for 15bucks or so.....might be worth a try

VG33ERGazelle?Aug 21, 2010, 1:49 pm · #39

hahahaha kusta you're ridiculous.

that sucks about the belt though...but at least yer's didn't explode in a cloud of glory like mine did @.@

btw, diggin the mavericks. themz reel stunnashades rite thur

ashleyanne
How else do I get the stripped allen bolt off?


VIOLENTLY.
IggyEGuanaAug 21, 2010, 2:10 pm · #40

you could try pliers, channel locks, large vise grips.  out of them a big pair of quality vise grips might do it if u clamp them on very tight and use a heavy hammer on them to break it loose.

ya EZ outs, also called screw extractors.  you have to drill the hole in the allen bolt deeper though.  the ez outs really only work if they can dig into the metal.  honestly i've had mixed luck with them.  usually if the bolt ur tryin to get out is tight (which urs is) then its not comin out.  use one of the larger ez outs in the set and drill the hole large to match.  small ez outs will just snap with the torque that bolt probably has.  oh and that bolt will be made of somewhat hardened steel so you'll need a TI coated drill bit or even better a cobalt coated one.  GL

any way u go u still need a replacement for that allen bolt

narrow mindedAug 21, 2010, 2:19 pm · #41

Grab-its work very well, I used those on some busted exhaust manifold studs with great success, its a good idea to soak the bolt in penetrating oilfor a good day or so to help the process.

ashleyanneAug 21, 2010, 3:08 pm · #42

If you see in the reflection of my glasses, that's the furthest my arms go so psh on the picture.

I considered vise gripping it out and EZ outs. However, like I said, I have no ride anywhere so I can't really go and buy anything at the moment. My friend just woke up though, so we'll see. I'm pretty irritated by this :[

I did nap though, from the time of my last post to just now, so I'm feeling a little better about the situation. :]

narrow mindedAug 22, 2010, 2:25 am · #43

naps FTW

nice youve got a solid axle, i hope to see that LOW

hotdoghogieAug 22, 2010, 2:45 am · #44
ashleyanneHow else do I get the stripped allen bolt off?

Grow a pair  

ArroAug 22, 2010, 4:03 am · #45

Heeeeey, she's just startin' out, cut 'er some slack y0 lol

ashleyanneAug 22, 2010, 9:08 pm · #46

Hater!

Bolt extractor snapped, saw that coming. No further progress

narrow mindedAug 22, 2010, 9:09 pm · #47
ashleyanneHater!

Bolt extractor snapped, saw that coming. No further progress

thats why grab-its are win, they dont usually snap.

another option is to use a dremel and grind some flat surfaces on the sides, that way you can get a wrench on it.
JayAug 22, 2010, 9:14 pm · #48
ashleyanneHater!

Bolt extractor snapped, saw that coming. No further progress

Extractors are junk, they rely on drilling the hole, and they push out on the sides, making the bolt tighter.

Option One: Left handed drill bit. Drills out the center, and the walls collapse, loosening the bolt, tightening on the bit and it comes right out. All in one nice, easy motion. Best size is a tad smaller than the inside diameter of the the threads, but guesses will most likely be fine
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Option Two. cut timing belt. MAPP Gas torch and a GOOD set of vice grips. New timing belt required

Option Three. Angle grinder, Cut a slit on the the surface, put a chisel or a flathead (Thicker = better, of course) as far out on the surface as possible, tap with 3 lb maul to turn it out.

Option four, cut off parts of head to make oblong with flat sides rather than a circle, same thing with chisel, flathead, or vice grips. (Mentioned above)

Option Five: Screw 20e. KA swap <- My recommendation
sam31183Aug 22, 2010, 9:48 pm · #49

ca18det swap....turbo deloreans for life!

200sxkitcarAug 22, 2010, 10:25 pm · #50

I've had this happen.

A pair of vice grips on the head of the bolt, they don't need to be super flush, just solidly on there, and loosen.  Unfortunately this is quite common with the single cam CA's, if you need a new one (as always) I have several about the place, ships easy in an envelope.

With vice grips, you should be ok.

Flush all the coolant while you're at it too!  There is a plug on the lower back part of the block behind the exhaust manifold, it is at the bottom rear of the water jacket and if you remove it you will drain the whole engine part of the system.  don't forget teflon tape or paste when reinstalling so it doesn't leak tho.