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Marks S12 Grand Prix

Started by sunny1600 · Feb 5, 2011 · 141postsSMF 2010–26

sunny1600Feb 5, 2011, 9:11 am · #1

Hi guys

I had my eye on this GP for some while now.  But I couldnt afford it, the price was too high. So at certain moment he dropped his price and I made him an offer. He accepted so I suggested to make  a first payment to him, He agreed but then there was some guy from Poland that wanted to buy the car for more money. Agreed to pay his price and make a first payment.
Hadn't heard anything for a couple of days... started tripping out missing the opportunity to buy this car.
Then I just received email from seller that I could make first payment and collect the car.

Me is happy   

So soon hopefully I'll be a proud owner of silvia S12 Grand Prix from 1986.

And the best part is that in Holland cars till the end off 1986 will have no road tax 

So plans are

- coilovers (saw some BCracing)
- polybush the S12
- brake upgrade
- maybe other rims (like 10J rear)
- rollcage

ow and a guy I know at the dutch nissanclub suggested to make the FJ20 FJ20E+T.
Wouldn't say no against that 

Plans? Scare the living sh** out of those beemers on the Nordschleife 

Some pics of the car

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Post Merge: 03:13:01 PM / 05-Feb-11

Wednesday 02th february 2011

Early rise, at 8 in the morning I was at my mate's place to collect my S12 Grand Prix in Stützengrün (Germany) About 700kmh's from my place.
Stützengrün
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Tom Tom said it would take about 9hours drive with speed limitation of 90kmh
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Crossed through the whole of Germany with Patrol and trailer
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At certain point even dumb dumb (tom tom) lost track
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After some hours we came in the direction off Dresden.

The road kept getting smaller, but the Nissan Patrol was still going strong
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In the end, after alot of time, random shit chat, shitty coffee and strong diesel we arrived in the small town.
Look around and there the S12 stood
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Instand "crush" again
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Took a quick peak below the car and the seller came with a half liter of beer.
Started the S12 GP for a moment to see how it runs, testdrive was a problem because of the snow. Lots of it.
Snow and RWD is fun, but not for testride.
Looked in and underneath the car, the previous owner had put new pistons and camshafts in it, according to the seller. So that will be checked.

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Car stood still for more then 10 years (suspended)

Car on trailer and then we went into their shed with some typical stuff. Beer, naked posters of ladys, frozen beer and torched beer to unfreeze it.
We also did one beer there and then went home for a long way back.
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It had became dark, and after the usefull pitstops, we arrived home.
Parked the car, did some S12 test driving and went home with the mazda 323 (my other car).
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I was in bed at 4 and was totally broken.


Post Merge: 03:14:59 PM / 05-Feb-11

Thursday 03th february 2011

Today I stood up early, fixed myself a garage for the S12 and went to see the S12 in daylight

Bad points

- paint especially on the fiberglass widefenders
- Ashtray missing, and the foglights front
- absorber right rear is leaking, needs replacement
- exhaust system is leaking near the hand brake cable
- blower only works on 4, so the blower resistence? needs replacement or solder

Good points

- tires with enough rubber
- almost no rust underneath
- as we could tell its well maintaned
- oil is good
- disks and pads are in very good nick
- radiator looks new

pics

Interior

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Exterior
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In the garage

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Post Merge: 09:18:08 AM / 05-Feb-11

Today I got the keys of the garage, so I drove the car to the garage.

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oshag03Feb 5, 2011, 9:24 am · #2

Very Nice! keep us posted

tommyFeb 5, 2011, 9:41 am · #3

Nice score buddy!

You've got to love those road trips to go get far away/rare cars!

Was the passenger foot brace standards on european car, or on the GP in that matter?

Love the front corner lights, but the Euro tail lights are less nice than the USDM one, maybe someone over here will want to trade their for yours....

RedneckFeb 5, 2011, 10:27 am · #4
tommy on 09:41:02 AM / 05-Feb-11Love the front corner lights, but the Euro tail lights are less nice than the USDM one, maybe someone over here will want to trade their for yours....

How can anyone not find the euro taillights by far the sexiest s12 taillights? The six packs do not even compared. The (usdm anyway) mk2 tails are sexier then the mk1 six packs but the euro tails still easily beat out the mk2 tails in the sexy department.
newby200sxFeb 5, 2011, 10:51 am · #5

Holy mother of god. That thing is a beauty. Be sure to keep us posted man!!!!!

VG33ERGazelle?Feb 5, 2011, 10:59 am · #6

Love this thing man. Are those little windshield wipers on the headlights? I just noticed those little cage things on the bulbs and I swear one looks like it is motorized.

seishukuFeb 5, 2011, 12:16 pm · #7

Yeah, a lot of euro S12s got the headlight wipers... Pretty cool option.

VG33ERGazelle?Feb 5, 2011, 12:26 pm · #8

that makes me jealous, I want some of those little cages for my headlights  :reallysad:

sinerjeFeb 5, 2011, 2:24 pm · #9

awesome find! best of luck with your new S12 :D

ProlowtoneFeb 5, 2011, 4:54 pm · #10

I love those wide fenders. Looks mean:)

sunny1600Feb 5, 2011, 6:12 pm · #11

thanks guys

guess its fully loaded  :thumbsup:

1984 s-12Feb 8, 2011, 1:09 pm · #12

Wow I hate u jk car looks realy nice. Just needs a nice long wax

sunny1600Feb 8, 2011, 1:11 pm · #13
1984 s-12 on 01:09:54 PM / 08-Feb-11
Wow I hate u jk car looks realy nice. Just needs a nice long wax

and a turbo  :thumbsup:
1984 s-12Feb 8, 2011, 1:19 pm · #14

How can I forget about that. A turbo will be awsome to

vegasS12Feb 8, 2011, 3:26 pm · #15

i still want your headlight assembly :D lol
car looks amazing take care of her she's a beauty!

lady_s12_77Feb 8, 2011, 7:13 pm · #16

I use to live in Hanau Germany in '02 (military) which isn't too far from Frankfurt, resided in 'Pioneer Kasern' to be exact. From what others told me online its all been shut down now.  Anyhow, totally beautiful place Germany is; miss that place  :cry2:

And congrats on the super cool ride :yay!:
LOVE those wide fenders!

nismologistFeb 8, 2011, 10:18 pm · #17

what is that black bar on the floorboard in the passenger side?

vegasS12Feb 9, 2011, 2:58 pm · #18
nismologist on 10:18:27 PM / 08-Feb-11
what is that black bar on the floorboard in the passenger side?

foot rest i believe.........
Wolf DilworthFeb 9, 2011, 3:54 pm · #19

"Short people, got no reason..." 

A foot rest for the passenger? Crazy Germans. :o)

sunny1600Feb 21, 2011, 5:49 am · #20

New oil came in today

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Next thing is to change the oil and coolant and then get it registered on my name with new (dutch) license plates


Post Merge: 11:33:59 AM / 21-Feb-11

Im also about to order some bushes

I have read/ heard on club-s12 and got info from Arro that most of the Z31 bushes fit my s12
Just need to buy S13/S14 front control arm bushes so added those in my list as well

142004 Total Kit

Includes:

    * Front Lower Control Arm Bushings - 14206
    * Rear Lower Control Arm Bushings - 14303
    * Front Strut Arm Bushings - 141203 141204
    * Front Sway Bar Endlinks - 19401
    * Rear Sway Bar Endlinks - 19408
    * Front Sway Bar Bushings - 141109 141110 141111
    * Rear Sway Bar Bushings - 141112 141113 141114
    * Tie Rod Dust Boots - 191714

+
Front Control Arm Bushings

    * Part Number: 7.3114

We are currently doing a groupbuy on the dutch nissanclub with the energy suspension bushes so it saves alot on the huge shipping costs.
fyneyoungstunnaFeb 21, 2011, 7:58 pm · #21

so this is WAY off topic, but:
you have a patrol correct? does it have the RD26? what do you know about modding that engine? and stuff that people have done to it? We had a huge argument on here about the performance of that particular engine. PM it to me if youd like.

Nice hatch btw! cant wait to see forward progress!!

Wolf DilworthFeb 21, 2011, 9:17 pm · #22

You sir have made an epic find.  Great looking ride, I normally do not like the so called "Turbo Hood" but it works on the GP.

Peace, Wolf

sunny1600Feb 22, 2011, 3:43 am · #23

I dont have a patrol but I will ask my buddy who has one.

thanks guys

sunny1600Feb 23, 2011, 2:15 pm · #24

Today the GP got new oil (castrol magnatec 10w40), new coolant and fresh gasoline
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Tomorrow Im going to registrate the car

Totally forgot to ask about the patrol. Will do that tomorrow If i dont forget ;)

ProlowtoneFeb 23, 2011, 6:13 pm · #25

Damn, Wish i had a 2 post lift in my garage. Would make shit nice and easy

sunny1600Feb 24, 2011, 9:56 am · #26

Indeed I would also like one. But this is not in my garage. Its a friend of mine (the same that went to collect the GP with me).


Post Merge: 10:48:22 AM / 24-Feb-11
Today I drove the S12 for the first time for a longer period to get it to the registration office.

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SlickS12Feb 24, 2011, 10:53 am · #27

You know I always wondered what a GP model would look like with a usdm SE kit on it.  I have one laying around if you're interested.

This is an awesome find my friend.  What are your plans of duty for this thing, DD or track car?

sunny1600Feb 24, 2011, 12:49 pm · #28

Thans but not interested. It stays this way.
Plans are on the first page or in the welcome area topic.

IggyEGuanaFeb 28, 2011, 2:26 pm · #29

interesting. ur rear spoiler is a little different the the two styles we are used to seeing.  and ur rear diff has a cover that looks like a later model r200 lsd cover.  GPs came with lsd?  never heard of any S12 that did.  not even the JDM RS-X

tommyFeb 28, 2011, 4:59 pm · #30

apparently some did, very few late model did come with 4.11:1 LSD r200, or it could just be an aftermaket one

sunny1600Feb 28, 2011, 5:03 pm · #31

So my GP has LSD?

DjayS12Feb 28, 2011, 6:04 pm · #32
sunny1600 on 05:03:46 PM / 28-Feb-11So my GP has LSD?

Try it and see ;)
sunny1600Feb 28, 2011, 6:09 pm · #33

lol

smartass :P

IggyEGuanaFeb 28, 2011, 6:58 pm · #34

idk if shortnose r200 covers fit our longnose or not.  i know the lsd will fit inside tho.  its possible that somebody installed lsd into it and replaced the cover to match... or just replaced the cover.  wouldnt hurt to pop the cover and inspect the diff.  prob needs new fluid and seal anyways :D

sunny1600Mar 10, 2011, 4:51 pm · #35

I have received my registration papers so tomorrow Im planning to go too the carshop to let them make the license plates
Next week Im going to put it for MOT, needs replacement of rear shock absorber. This has been received last thuesday.

Next thing? Drive the S12 on the Nordschleife ASAP!!

Some pics of this evening. A buddy of mine and his brother came to take a look at the GP

Lanyards received
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All hail FJ20 :P
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Colonel GustardMar 10, 2011, 5:14 pm · #36

love the car man, should sell me the tail lights lol. love the  car, keep up the good work

EightySix200SXMar 10, 2011, 6:37 pm · #37

very nice mate it is possible you have a lsd sir later models were equipped with lsd'd as were some RS-X models

lanyards are neat eh! i got a few myself one for each set of car keys!

sunny1600Mar 22, 2011, 7:44 am · #38

Car has been fixed for MOT.
Rear shocks replaced
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This rubber has been replaced (dont know the name)
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And its leeking here some at the gearbox
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Took it for a wash
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Took the car for MOT. Passed and took it for a good wash.
And then some driving. I was driving like 140kmh (like 90 mph) and then BANG! I was like WTF.
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Didnt have a jack so I had to wait for a buddy of mine.

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Fixed the car and just ordered new tires. Falken ZIEX 912

TO BE CONTINUED
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tommyMar 22, 2011, 7:56 am · #39

Rear tranny seal is probably leaking, but it's really easy to change...

IggyEGuanaMar 22, 2011, 8:08 pm · #40

whew! good thing that tire didnt come apart.  say goodbye to ur fender if it did

methylpropMar 22, 2011, 9:05 pm · #41

I like this car. Very pretty.

Wolf DilworthMar 22, 2011, 11:53 pm · #42

Glad to see you did not lose control either. 

Keep'er shiny side up...

Peace.

sunny1600Mar 30, 2011, 5:48 pm · #43

30/03/2011 Zeitronix AFR + gadgets

The last week I looked around for an AFR (Air Fuel Ratio) gauge. I PM-ed with some guys local that know alot of Nissans.

Finally decided to order some stuff from America. Why? With a wide-band I get a much better idea how my engine is running compared to a lambda-SR20 (narrow band). So I can see if the engine runs lean, too rich or good. The FJ20E  has no lambda control and with this AFR the engine is well controlled.

So I bought an AFR with gauge.

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This has become a Zeitronix, more precisely the ZT-2 with plenty of adjustment / reading possibilities.
The plans are to place an EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) gauge to be connected. This is something my S12 doesn't have yet. If you are going to tune it better to have a wideband and EGT sensor, this is the way you see what really happens. If you only have a wideband, you see only if the engine runs rich or lean. What you see is how hot or cold the exhaust and that is important, especially in turbo area. Keeping in mind the future plans, being a turbo on the FJ20, this is a logical choice.

I also have been thinking of a Apexi SAFC II.  Skipped this plan quickly because  the SAFC does not work on the current engine. This is because the FJ20E has no  0-5 volt throttle sensor. There is only open or closed and there are no intermediate steps.  The Apexi has been referred to the fridge. Not as long as into the freezer for the project should not be that long.

What are the plans?

short term [/ i] [/ b]
Compression test and spark plugs replaced (The Nissan S12 workshop manual book
BPRS7ES BPRS6ES or-11-11).
Check the fuel pump and fuel pressure.

Slightly less short term [/ i] [/ b]
If the Zeitronix  stuff arrives have that built in.

What do we monitor?
- Oil temperature
- Exhaust gas temperature
- Fuel pressure
- Water temperature
- AFR

And what have we finally bought?
• Zeitronix Zt-2 + LCD Display Bundle in Black
• Fluid Temperature Sensor (1/8th NPT) 2x
• 2x 1/8th NPT Bung
• Exhaust Gas Temperature Probe
• Pressure Sensor (150 PSI / 10 Bar)
• Oxygen Sensor Bung
• Zeitronix Decal

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citikasApr 1, 2011, 2:04 pm · #44

Very nice car :tongue2:

sunny1600Apr 1, 2011, 2:04 pm · #45

Thanks. I also like your GP

Did your car still have the original floor mats? If so can you post a picture as Im interested on how they look.

citikasApr 1, 2011, 2:22 pm · #46

Unfortunately there are no remaining original

sunny1600Apr 13, 2011, 5:13 pm · #47

The ZT-2 has arrived. New tyres have been put on the rims (Falken ZIEX 912) and I have bought some new spark plugs.
I am looking for some new discs and pads. Probably hawk pads and OE replacement discs. Thanks for the links Nils (Spec)

The car has been taxated today, so this way its good insured in case something happens to it.
I took the car for a drive afterwards and Its handling better and better. The rear shocks (right one was leeking), front ball joints and tyres have been replaced.

I have also found a document from 1995 where the car has done 177.xxx KMs. So the last 15 years the car has been driven less than 10.000km.

The PU bushes I have ordered are on the way. Coilovers next year so plans are there.

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Post Merge: 05:14:47 PM / 13-Apr-11
citikas on 02:22:10 PM / 01-Apr-11Unfortunately there are no remaining original

Lol everybody makes it their own style.

Does yours also have a sunroof? Today the car is taxated and the guy said the roof isnt original?
vegasS12Apr 13, 2011, 5:50 pm · #48

i want your head light gaurds! cars looks real nice and clean
if you ever find a set of headlight gaurds i'll be more than happy to get them :)

sunny1600Apr 17, 2011, 8:13 pm · #49

The Zeitronics will probably be built in end of this month.

I went to a Nissan meeting today (yesterday/sunday) and took the car for a longer drive. Like 1 hour.
Got a good response to the car, even thumbs up from a biker on the freeway

Afterwards I went to a Nissan enthousiast who also has a silvia (S110) and we did a compression test on the engine. All 4 cylinders are around the 11.5 so thats all good. Only I wonder about the FJ20 rattle. I will post a video and a topic later.

Car is doing much better, new rear shocks and tyres do the S12 good.

Some pics

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sunny1600Apr 20, 2011, 3:42 pm · #50

Some pictures a bud of mine took of my car.

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He is also going to do a photoshoot featuring my car next month.

I have also ordered the mazda chain tensioner which should be installed next monday.