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JZ S12 BUILD, RIP 2012

Started by David B · May 28, 2008 · 1673postsSMF 2010–26

VG30_S12Jun 2, 2008, 1:22 pm · #51
David BQUESTION,
switching to KA24DE

what will that do with automatic doors, and the voice, and all that stuff?

why? does veronica turn you on  lol

sorry, no help for the hood though...
demonic s12Jun 2, 2008, 1:33 pm · #52
David B i cant pop the hood, it seems like the pull has been worn out,

any ideas how to open it? the honeycomb grill is off anyways, and i see the whole setup,

i tried a few things butno luck,
HELP

try getting to the cable under the dash and give it a twist or pull with some needle nose pliers
David BJun 2, 2008, 3:48 pm · #53
VG30_S12why? does veronica turn you on  lol

sorry, no help for the hood though...

veronica does turn me on

and i eneded up breaking the shit out of the latch,
im gonna do HOOD pins i guess,
seems pretty simple.

i have another question,
how hard would it be to slap cruise control on my other s12??
jaidedeyeJun 3, 2008, 6:09 pm · #54
David Bi cant pop the hood, it seems like the pull has been worn out,
any ideas how to open it? the honeycomb grill is off anyways, and i see the whole setup,

i tried a few things butno luck,
HELP

so you broke the hood latch already?

just pull it....
David BJun 3, 2008, 6:13 pm · #55

noo, it was working, and then it stopped workin

i pulled, i jiggled the wires and everything.
i pulled at the end of the cord it was LOCKED up somehow.

i tried for like 2 hours...
plus, whats wrong with hoodpins?

David BJun 17, 2008, 5:40 pm · #56

TODAY

i decided to start engine removal before i move,
im just gonna dump the engine,trans onto a pallet

today, i removed the fenders/hood/bumper

anyone, what do i disconnect for the engine to come out?
the exaust manifold....

the drivetrain...

some parts of the harness....
is that all?

AND DUH HERES PICTURES

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so,
anyone.
with tips/information to remove the engine.
i do have a friend who is a little mechanically experienced to help me do this

i know to, remove the transimission fluid and stuff

but what else?????!

demonic s12Jun 17, 2008, 5:57 pm · #57

shouldnt this be in the s12 garage?

you have a long road ahead of you man, have fun

SHIFT_LOVEJun 17, 2008, 6:03 pm · #58

disconnect downpipe, unbolt engine mounts, disconnect water lines, pull wiring harness through after disconnecting it from the ecu, disconnect fuel lines, remove shifter assy, unbolt transmission cross member, remove carrier bearing from the driveshaft and pull drive shaft out of the back of the tranny, hoist engine up off of engine mounts, make sure all wires and hoses are disconnected, hoist up higher, pull forward, hoist higher, pull forward, hoist higher and have someone step/push down on the back of trans and jack it up until it clears the core support/radiator...complete engine removal guide lol...do it in semi-that order

David BJun 17, 2008, 6:32 pm · #59
caraudiofooleryshouldnt this be in the s12 garage?

you have a long road ahead of you man, have fun
it should
it was my S12 adventure thread.... but arro changed it

IF MODERATOR SEES THIS THREAD PLEASE MOVE IT UNDER THE GARAGE THREAD

SHIFT_LOVEdisconnect downpipe, unbolt engine mounts, disconnect water lines, pull wiring harness through after disconnecting it from the ecu, disconnect fuel lines, remove shifter assy, unbolt transmission cross member, remove carrier bearing from the driveshaft and pull drive shaft out of the back of the tranny, hoist engine up off of engine mounts, make sure all wires and hoses are disconnected, hoist up higher, pull forward, hoist higher, pull forward, hoist higher and have someone step/push down on the back of trans and jack it up until it clears the core support/radiator...complete engine removal guide lol...do it in semi-that order


and thanks,
ill prob have questions when i come across but thats a decent order

hoisting the engine wont happen until i find a friend that i can borrow,
im gonna buy a engine lift,
but not right now,

what about the radiator?
i took it out anyways...
i would rather end up buying a new one for this car,
plus i had to drain the fluid anyway

how much trans fuild comes out of this thing?
sop i can get a big enough bucket for it..... and now undershoot

demonic s12Jun 17, 2008, 6:34 pm · #60

my auto drained quite a bit, not sure how much though...

is it like 5 quarts for a stick?

David BJun 17, 2008, 11:39 pm · #61

alright,
my oil drain thing should be good...
i just needed an estiment so i ddint overfill into my garage

and im sure the service manual says where the drain bolt for the trans fluid is

SHIFT_LOVEJun 17, 2008, 11:46 pm · #62
David Balright,
my oil drain thing should be good...
i just needed an estiment so i ddint overfill into my garage
and im sure the service manual says where the drain bolt for the trans fluid is
the drain bolt for the trans fluid should be on the bottom of the trans right smack dab in the middle of it, it hold about 4-5 quarts of 80w90 and watch out make sure all of it gets in the bucket because since its an s12 its prolly really old fluid and itll smell like absolute shit, but you just need a 1/2 inch drive ratchet to take it loose...oh AND you prolly need a breaker bar so you have some leverage
David BJun 17, 2008, 11:50 pm · #63
SHIFT_LOVEthe drain bolt for the trans fluid should be on the bottom of the trans right smack dab in the middle of it, it hold about 4-5 quarts of 80w90 and watch out make sure all of it gets in the bucket because since its an s12 its prolly really old fluid and itll smell like absolute shit, but you just need a 1/2 inch drive ratchet to take it loose...oh AND you prolly need a breaker bar so you have some leverage

who needs a breaker bar
thats what i have legs for!
David BJun 18, 2008, 12:46 am · #64

i got the fluid drain out for the trans,
boy that was a bitch lol

now im off to the exaust, and then the drive train

probally it for tonight

bluke1Jun 18, 2008, 12:55 am · #65

dont forget to drain the headlight fluid!

David BJun 18, 2008, 12:56 am · #66

headlights have fluid?

whyyyyyy

David BJun 18, 2008, 2:42 am · #67

where is the drain for the headlight fluid?
are you sure its important?

JulieJun 18, 2008, 2:55 am · #68
David B(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_0982.jpg)

now thats a high performance mod. skateboard for a seat = lots o' weight savings.

this car is officially fast AND furious
David BJun 18, 2008, 2:58 am · #69
julienow thats a high performance mod. skateboard for a seat = lots o' weight savings.

this car is officially fast AND furious


lol
i got a S13 seat,
im waiting for those dudes to make those brackets hopefully!

your just jealous of my skateboard seat.
its a stacey peralta board,
an originial
demonic s12Jun 18, 2008, 2:58 am · #70
bluke1 dont forget to drain the headlight fluid!

really man? did you have to go there  

 
SHIFT_LOVEJun 18, 2008, 4:02 pm · #71
caraudiofooleryreally man? did you have to go there  

 
whats even funnier is im not sure if he knows he was fucking with him or not...ive never heard headlight fluid...but more like blinker fluid...skyhook bench stretcher??? dual overhead driveshaft...a rotary with cams and pistons??? factory mustang gtr with factory intercooler lol
David BJun 18, 2008, 6:21 pm · #72

ha.ha.

that was, so.... funny

JulieJun 19, 2008, 7:58 am · #73

*moved to club-s12 garage section*

jeffwins24Jun 19, 2008, 1:15 pm · #74
bluke1dont forget to drain the headlight fluid!

(http://kalecoauto.com/images/BlinkFluid.jpg)
SHIFT_LOVEJun 19, 2008, 3:03 pm · #75
jeffwins24(http://kalecoauto.com/images/BlinkFluid.jpg)
hahaha where did you find that??? or did you make it...thats fucking awesome
ArroJun 19, 2008, 3:21 pm · #76

Someone else moved it, not me  

Just start disconnecting everything.... you won't be reusing lots of it, so disconnect anything connected to the engine.

Do you have a hoist yet?

Oh hey are you gutting your interior? If you wanted to sell that carpet I'd buy it.

David BJun 19, 2008, 6:09 pm · #77
ArroSomeone else moved it, not me  

Just start disconnecting everything.... you won't be reusing lots of it, so disconnect anything connected to the engine.

Do you have a hoist yet?

Oh hey are you gutting your interior? If you wanted to sell that carpet I'd buy it.


no, the interior is just basically pulled apart. (i dont have seats rememeb)
and
the carpet, BTW. isnt even stock carpet, jaidseye made it himself i think, and it fits damn good, i just have to cut out a few more pieces to completely fit around the bolt

and NO i wont sell it! i need carpet!
the hoist is the problem,
i need to find a friend with one,
ill buy one someday,
but not now.
i just want the engine OUt

so
lets see what happens
JulieJun 19, 2008, 6:45 pm · #78

u dont NEED a hoist, if yuo drop the engine out the bottom of the car. basically, you remove the subframe and lower it on a jack to the ground.

SHIFT_LOVEJun 19, 2008, 7:00 pm · #79
julieu dont NEED a hoist, if yuo drop the engine out the bottom of the car. basically, you remove the subframe and lower it on a jack to the ground.
that involves sooo much more work though...tie rods, subframe, power steering lines, AND whatever the bitch that is the s12 throws your way
sinestroJun 19, 2008, 7:23 pm · #80

^ what he said, i had the motor out and had to swap my front crossmember and it was a bitch and a half with no weight, i can only imagane what kind of trouble it would of been with a motor and all. just get your own cherry picker, they are not that expencive depending on where you shop, i got mine from a tool sale for about a $100, its a good investment regardless to have your own tools that you can use whenever you need instead of useing someone elses when its convenient for them, trust me i thought my swap was going to be quick and painless, i would of been borrowing someones tools for 2 years now had i not bought my own

EternalSwapJun 19, 2008, 8:31 pm · #81

Cardboard is your freind. Fluids will come out of places you didn't know existed

jeffwins24Jun 19, 2008, 11:06 pm · #82
SHIFT_LOVEthat involves sooo much more work though...tie rods, subframe, power steering lines, AND whatever the bitch that is the s12 throws your way

that could be very usful for someone who doesn't own a hoist though. my automotive teacher had to do that once. his miata blow a motor (completely shot) he got some dollie or some shit with tires and replaced the motor that way... he put his miata near a tree and dropped the motor in from the tree using the tree as a hoist. Lol

crazy things he use to do lol

(EDIT: he had to do it in a 1 - 2 day period because his miata is his DD
SHIFT_LOVEJun 19, 2008, 11:14 pm · #83
jeffwins24that could be very usful for someone who doesn't own a hoist though. my automotive teacher had to do that once. his miata blow a motor (completely shot) he got some dollie or some shit with tires and replaced the motor that way... he put his miata near a tree and dropped the motor in from the tree using the tree as a hoist. Lol

crazy things he use to do lol

(EDIT: he had to do it in a 1 - 2 day period because his miata is his DD
omg lol, i would never trust wood to do metals job...weird...i wouldve been scared shitless that the branch wouldve broken...but regardless, once you get the engine out youre going to havta have someone help you rock that bitch off of the cross member, and then back on again...which...risks damage to the oil pan and what have you...but regardless...its your choice dude...do what makes you happy
David BJun 20, 2008, 12:49 am · #84

.....
i said.
im borrowing a hoist?
jesus

200sxkitcarJun 20, 2008, 5:29 am · #85

^lol

I've heard of people using trees several times.  I wouldn't trust it tho  

David BJun 20, 2008, 5:59 am · #86
200sxkitcar^lol

I've heard of people using trees several times.  I wouldn't trust it tho

honestly,
since my hosue is going into forclosure,

the house has a I BAR right above where the car sits,

i was thinking maybe i could just buy a winch, and bolt it on,

i mean FORCLOSURE, meaning, it doesnt matter what happens to the house, the bank is taking it
200sxkitcarJun 20, 2008, 6:10 am · #87

Thats probably not strong enough to handle the engine.

EDIT:  You mean I beam, ok, that might be good enough.  Regardless,

You sure as shit wouldn't want to get it halfway out, and then have it come down on the car.  It could fuck it up pretty badly.  Be worse if you happened to be in the way...

The hoist would have to be secured to the I beam really, really well.

If you purposely damage the house, they can come after you, not that its likely tho

David BJun 20, 2008, 8:29 am · #88
200sxkitcarThats probably not strong enough to handle the engine.

EDIT:  You mean I beam, ok, that might be good enough.  Regardless,

You sure as shit wouldn't want to get it halfway out, and then have it come down on the car.  It could fuck it up pretty badly.  Be worse if you happened to be in the way...

The hoist would have to be secured to the I beam really, really well.

If you purposely damage the house, they can come after you, not that its likely tho

haha
well

the house isnt forclosing on my mom.
its forclosing on the rentor who disapeered

so,
no one wouldn know  

it is an I beam

sorry,
its the beam connected to the POLE in the middle of the garage,
it goes all the way across the cieling,
i can see where they painted over it

but honestly,
thats where my room is.
and i dont want my bed on my car

so ill prob wait on the move/unless i get a hoist
jeffwins24Jun 20, 2008, 9:03 am · #89

i thought discount auto and advanced auto had engine hoist for rent?

David BJun 21, 2008, 3:33 am · #90
jeffwins24i thought discount auto and advanced auto had engine hoist for rent?

omg did they?
that would be perfect as shit!

UPDATE*****

exaust and driveshaft disconnected.

is the water line the line that has foamy shit that comes out of it?
w/e well i disconnected that too
trying to think of anything else i need to get,

where are fuel lines ETC. that i need to spot?

any other fluids?
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1234.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1238.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1239.jpg)

sorry everyone,
but im doing this one step at a time
i cant afford to make mistakes
jeffwins24Jun 21, 2008, 6:19 am · #91

once your done with the swap give the motor (CA20E) to nissan watch I bet they'll throw it away Lol

EternalSwapJun 21, 2008, 9:09 am · #92

Don't forget heater core lines.

David BJun 21, 2008, 11:17 am · #93

what do i leave in exactly....

i understand the brake stuff, blah blah,
anything important?

SHIFT_LOVEJun 21, 2008, 1:17 pm · #94
jeffwins24once your done with the swap give the motor (CA20E) to nissan watch I bet they'll throw it away Lol
HAHAHA!!!LOL AND OTHER SUCH INTERNET LAUGH ABBREVIATIONS!!!
sinestroJun 21, 2008, 4:18 pm · #95

you'll leave the vacume canster alone as well as the power stearing lines, basicly anything you disconect will have a counter part on your new motor that will have to be reconected, a feed and return line for just about everything, just label everything if that helps and take your time, read any nissan swap guide you can get your hands on, there all basicly the same. the sr20det into s13 swap guides that the tuner and project car mags. did helped me a buntch with getting the basic idea of how nissan does things

David BJun 21, 2008, 8:17 pm · #96
sinestroyou'll leave the vacume canster alone as well as the power stearing lines, basicly anything you disconect will have a counter part on your new motor that will have to be reconected, a feed and return line for just about everything, just label everything if that helps and take your time, read any nissan swap guide you can get your hands on, there all basicly the same. the sr20det into s13 swap guides that the tuner and project car mags. did helped me a buntch with getting the basic idea of how nissan does things

alright.
so far,
i ahve been black trash bagging everything ive taken off

im gonna take some more pics,
and ask if i should keep them also
David BJun 22, 2008, 5:55 am · #97
julie*moved to club-s12 garage section*
thanks
David BJun 23, 2008, 3:39 am · #98

UPDATE******

alright,
i got sick of not being able to find a hoist,
and im obviously impatient,
so i decided to get some BRAIN

i attempted removing the transmission, plus it will make it easier to pull the engine right?
and... my trans is going out, so i might as well learn how to pull one, and replace another...

SO
wielding my POS 160 piece toolset of MIGHT! and 3 painstaking hours later

success!
hahaha

and arro,
sterling was right, im just stupid,
there is another piece to the driveshaft

i need a hoist!
dammit
 

jeffwins24Jun 23, 2008, 4:04 am · #99

you could peice out the motor part by part until you just have the cylinder block (without the pistons) in the car then you can have someone help you take it out manually like that. plus it'll give you a chance to learn alot of cool stuff along the way.

David BJun 23, 2008, 4:17 am · #100
jeffwins24you could peice out the motor part by part until you just have the cylinder block (without the pistons) in the car then you can have someone help you take it out manually like that. plus it'll give you a chance to learn alot of cool stuff along the way.

yea that also came into mind
this whole process is hard learning all by myself

but
i might as well wait till i move, which is in literally 24 days
i already have like a bunch of parts that i have to move, other then the car

because im not throwing away the CA20E
im keeping it, just in case my CA20E in my other car breaks something.

OH YEA
and the house im moving into....
HAS A MASSIVE 2 DOOR GARAGE.
its like half of the house!

its just me and my mom (sister in colledge)
so
she said the garage is ALL mine MIEN MINE MINE. no one at all but me
makes up for the small room