JZ S12 BUILD, RIP 2012

Started by David B · May 28, 2008 · 1673postsSMF 2010–26

Ju_S12_TurboOct 31, 2009, 3:54 am · #1001

That looks like a old cs12 member (Doritoad?) Ah here is his car domain, http://www.cardomain.com/ride/425214 (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/425214)

myth_S12Oct 31, 2009, 5:26 am · #1002

try having them sink in.
Flush kinda looks funky.
i dont know, that's just me.

JayOct 31, 2009, 6:22 am · #1003

I like option 3.

The two headlights you have there. recessed about an inch, with a smoked, or a mirrored one way (using mirrored window tint) cover as pictured in picture one. Best of all worlds, and not hard to make.

Just simple plexiglass, heat it up slowly with a heat gun, and make the bend. voila, covered, recessed headlights with no sliding or unbolting of cover.

But if your not willing to do that, I like the two headlights, as someone else said, recessed a little bit into it.

I like the look of that open space there, I'm rocking it. Just like you though. I don't really like the idea with the open space with lights in there.

Or, Just thought of it. Instead of bending the plexi, Cut out or separate the front plastic on that housing. That way you have it right there. remove the paint somehow. and you have your perfect lens

David BOct 31, 2009, 3:58 pm · #1004

heres a more simple aproach

i could make my marker lights up top as turn signals.. if i really wanted turn signals

and run the headlights in the turn signals

(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3714.jpg)
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3713.jpg)

ArroOct 31, 2009, 4:59 pm · #1005

Ju_S12_TurboThat looks like a old cs12 member (Doritoad?) Ah here is his car domain, http://www.cardomain.com/ride/425214 (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/425214)

Nah looks FAR better than DoriToad.

Ok David I will admit if you put in those tiny headlights right where the cornerlights are IT WILL LOOK GOOD, and I admit that you have a good eye for this kind of thing. I guess the only thing I was cringing over is that there are so FEW Turbo '84 hoods left in North America.

But like I said... you're doing a PROPER job of it. So for that you get mad credit.

Those drift pics you posted on the 28th are good enough for the calendar, but you'd have to get permission to use them, logo-free... we give credits at the bottom to whoever needs it but yeah those are great action shots.

JayOct 31, 2009, 5:50 pm · #1006

That might wind up not being legal. something like that I would actually make a call or an appointment with one of your state troopers to find out what is the legal height of the headlights for a vehicle. I know here in wi, Driving lights are defined as all of the headlight bulbs (Sealed beam, 6054, 4446, 7613, etc, and and just bulbs, 9006/9007/9004/9005 HB1 and others). and the headlight must be a minimum of 30" off the ground. Even I'm pushing it.

Your so close to getting your license back, There is something to consider with that.

brewster240Oct 31, 2009, 5:57 pm · #1007

30inches?

so some stock cars need lift kits or headlight risers to be in your area?

nismologistOct 31, 2009, 5:59 pm · #1008

david, when you fix your headlights, go with the dual headlamps. looks like a s110 or something.

David BOct 31, 2009, 10:06 pm · #1009

JayThat might wind up not being legal. something like that I would actually make a call or an appointment with one of your state troopers to find out what is the legal height of the headlights for a vehicle. I know here in wi, Driving lights are defined as all of the headlight bulbs (Sealed beam, 6054, 4446, 7613, etc, and and just bulbs, 9006/9007/9004/9005 HB1 and others). and the headlight must be a minimum of 30" off the ground. Even I'm pushing it.

Your so close to getting your license back, There is something to consider with that.

THIS CAR IS NOT A DAILY DRIVEN CAR, THERE IS NOTHING LEGAL ON MY CAR. AT ALL.

JayOct 31, 2009, 10:49 pm · #1010

David BTHIS CAR IS NOT A DAILY DRIVEN CAR, THERE IS NOTHING LEGAL ON MY CAR. AT ALL.

BUT IT STILL GETS DRIVEN ON THE ROADS!!! IF IT WASN'T YOU WOULDN'T NEED HEADLIGHTS!!!

And the whole 30 inches thing, Cars with stock headlights get away with it.. It's in place so that you don't have your driving lights below a certain level, otherwise they qualify as fog lights. and not driving lights. My state has some stupid laws. Like getting tickets for surface rust on a wheel. And if a single part on your car is not OEM (No aftermarket), every one can be a ticket. It's just one of those things that it's something you CAN get pulled over, depending on how bad they want to talk to you

seishukuOct 31, 2009, 11:20 pm · #1011

JayBUT IT STILL GETS DRIVEN ON THE ROADS!!! IF IT WASN'T YOU WOULDN'T NEED HEADLIGHTS!!!

And the whole 30 inches thing, Cars with stock headlights get away with it.. It's in place so that you don't have your driving lights below a certain level, otherwise they qualify as fog lights. and not driving lights. My state has some stupid laws. Like getting tickets for surface rust on a wheel. And if a single part on your car is not OEM (No aftermarket), every one can be a ticket. It's just one of those things that it's something you CAN get pulled over, depending on how bad they want to talk to you

Reference? I've never heard that.

brewster240Nov 1, 2009, 12:07 am · #1012

listen, jay knows everything, and he'll type a lot to prove it.

Ju_S12_TurboNov 1, 2009, 12:19 am · #1013

David B
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3714.jpg)

When I first saw this, I thought you were gonna hide them behind the turn signals and just put some super bright lights in them lol.

IggyEGuanaNov 1, 2009, 3:38 am · #1014

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David BNov 1, 2009, 4:39 am · #1015

JayBUT IT STILL GETS DRIVEN ON THE ROADS!!! IF IT WASN'T YOU WOULDN'T NEED HEADLIGHTS!!!

And the whole 30 inches thing, Cars with stock headlights get away with it.. It's in place so that you don't have your driving lights below a certain level, otherwise they qualify as fog lights. and not driving lights. My state has some stupid laws. Like getting tickets for surface rust on a wheel. And if a single part on your car is not OEM (No aftermarket), every one can be a ticket. It's just one of those things that it's something you CAN get pulled over, depending on how bad they want to talk to you

thanks jay, i dont really care about beuing illegal.. espeically since i have a truck to tow the car now

for now while i make the fenders, and in case i fuck up i found this gem to salvage a fender off

ill be getting it this week

thank god.

finding these on the east coast sucks.

(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/yyys.jpg)

im gonna get the pass mirror also

JayNov 1, 2009, 7:00 am · #1016

That settles that then. But, that does look like a gem. And judging by the way the rears are recessed so far, I'm guessing an SRA too. Rob that thing blind man.

And brewster, I don't know everything. I just know what I do know, just like you. Until PROVEN otherwise. I just happen to know a lot, about a lot.

And matt. It's a variation of FMVSS No. 108: Table II. Federally the lowest it can be is 22".. But I will dig through my tome to find you the specifics on those you bolded

EDIT: Of which I located Chapter 347.09 subsection c (2). States no more than 54 inches, and no less then 24. So I was off when I said 30. But it still validates your "sarcasm" of yes, some cars DO in fact "Need" Lift kits to be driven in my area. Such as older accords and civics to name a few, that have the headlights at the EXACT level off 22" as per the FMVSS mentioned earler.

brewster240Nov 1, 2009, 2:09 pm · #1017

Jay
And brewster, I don't know everything. I just think I do know. I just happen to think i know a lot, about a lot, but cant/dont prove most of it.

werd.

David BNov 2, 2009, 6:34 pm · #1018

well i got the fender, it has a small patch of bondo on it to cover up a whole im going to redo with jb weld... i like jb weld

and put a s13 clutch master clyinder on.... i notice that it bolts up, but the threaded pole end is too short??? anyone ever come to that conlusion?

so i cut one bracket etc. and mad it a few mill longer.. and it works fine now
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3724.jpg)
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3725.jpg)

i know my welding skills arent the best haha.. its a cheap welder

tried some paint to see what else i gotta do, some more sanding etc. then it will be good
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3722.jpg)
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3721.jpg)

JayNov 2, 2009, 7:08 pm · #1019

I put the S13 master in my S12. I just swapped the rods instead of having to weld anything.

Its sad that the s13 master and the s12 master are the same casting, and the difference in price for a new one is about 40 dollars. Because the rod length is different. It takes 3 minutes to take out a circlip and swap parts.

Sigh. The powers that be setup the prices that rob...

David BNov 2, 2009, 7:41 pm · #1020

w/e it took like 5 minutes to amke the bracket

JayNov 2, 2009, 8:26 pm · #1021

David Bw/e it took like 5 minutes to amke the bracket

I wasn't poking at what you did. It works fine and there's nothing wrong with. It just really is annoying that the difference in price over something so minor. Supply and demand at it's finest.

brewster240Nov 3, 2009, 12:25 am · #1022

hey david you have any problem with clutch pedal/bracket themselves flexing?

on the s13/14s ive had to weld up a few on cars that have heavy clutches that get clutch kicked a lot.

the metal fatigues and cracks, and on some the spot welds have ripped apart.

kyskaterNov 3, 2009, 9:43 pm · #1023

david am i seeing it right does that front bumper look diffrent than my mkI bumper?

David BNov 4, 2009, 3:19 am · #1024

which front bumper

David BNov 4, 2009, 3:37 am · #1025

guys this is really fucking cool! 3rd attempt came out GREAT... just needs some fillign and filing down, maybe a under layer to add more rigidity

this is 2 layers of fiberglass cloth
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/102_3728.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/102_3729.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/102_3730.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/102_3731.jpg)

i left some slack on the cloth so i can add resin and have it so i can bolt it to under where the hood is

David BNov 4, 2009, 4:02 am · #1026

heres it on the car, needs trimming still, lots of filling/sanding

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/102_3732.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/102_3733.jpg)

this is without camber on the wheel etc. i might get a slip on spacer for the front to get some better fitment results, but after i work with the fender for a tad ill get it sprayed etc. and probally do the drivers side if i get around to it, i guess i have to now ha

EternalSwapNov 4, 2009, 4:12 am · #1027

damn david that looks good!

i need fenders, send me a pair

Ju_S12_TurboNov 4, 2009, 6:30 am · #1028

Holy shit, That is pretty boss. +2 I want some as well.

XanoNov 4, 2009, 6:35 am · #1029

i def need a set haha. david, you might have some badass awesome money rollin in from this shit.

if you could sell em at cost + shipping + a little extra for you for your time, we'd all LOVE you lol. I need to replace my severely fucked up parts from my accident still.

JayNov 4, 2009, 6:41 am · #1030

You have officially reached pimp status in my book!

Much better than I have ever done

David BNov 4, 2009, 7:53 am · #1031

i want 5k per fender plus shipping

???

can i find something in a spray can.... maybe poly urathane? somethign that isnt too thin, and isnt to thick, that ican sand....

so i can fill in aolt of the mistakes ive made, after i sand away for a bit... and make it smoother

Ju_S12_TurboNov 4, 2009, 8:17 am · #1032

David Bi want 5k per fender plus shipping

???

can i find something in a spray can.... maybe poly urathane? somethign that isnt too thin, and isnt to thick, that ican sand....
so i can fill in aolt of the mistakes ive made, after i sand away for a bit... and make it smoother

Hmmm how about some of that truck bed liner they sell at autozone? I mean it sprays like paint but it's plastic lol. Might be a good filler

Ju_S12_TurboNov 4, 2009, 8:50 am · #1033

like this stuff lol http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PB3KV0 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PB3KV0)

http://www.ellsworth.com/display/productde...l?productid=772 (http://www.ellsworth.com/display/productdetail.html?productid=772)

http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarestore.co...lebase#features (http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarestore.com/60-352-clear-finish-polyurethane/minwax-helmsman-spray-urethane-629979.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=629979&utm_campaign=googlebase#features)

It even comes in colors!

David BNov 4, 2009, 10:05 pm · #1034

ooo i am filled with hope

i sanded the fender out some today.. going to go buy some cans of stuff

Nick_WNov 5, 2009, 12:05 am · #1035

wow, that body work looks good david!

there are many many car enthusiasts who can't do body work for shit, so hellz yeah boii!!

David BNov 5, 2009, 12:05 am · #1036

could i smother a layer of fiberglass bondo overtop to smooth it out or will it crack etc.

XanoNov 6, 2009, 3:47 am · #1037

fix that bumper.

David BNov 6, 2009, 4:03 am · #1038

Xanofix that bumper.

SprockCapnNov 6, 2009, 4:35 am · #1039

The fender looks pretty sweet. You defintely are on to something there. The body lines are all looking spot on

David B
tried some paint to see what else i gotta do, some more sanding etc. then it will be good

XanoNov 6, 2009, 4:51 am · #1040

David Bno

yes.

David BNov 6, 2009, 4:53 am · #1041

why

XanoNov 6, 2009, 5:05 am · #1042

make your daily look clean as fuck, while your car on the back is smashed up and looks badass. Its a trend. and its awesome.

kyskaterNov 8, 2009, 3:41 am · #1043

David Bwhich front bumper

the white one that you got the fender off of look at the liscense plate mount on mine the bottom part comes out and the top part is flush, on the white on it is the oppisite way the top of the liscense plate is sunken in and the lower portion is flush

JayNov 8, 2009, 5:27 am · #1044

Xanomake your daily look clean as fuck, while your car on the back is smashed up and looks badass. Its a trend. and its awesome.

Who really cares. It's a work truck for him. Battle damage is a medal of honor for my hauling/mudding trucks. Besides, it's just a bumper. I understand David point of view on that completely. Trucks are meant to be used and abused. Not to be spotless and clean. That just shows it was never used for it's intended purpose.

David BNov 8, 2009, 1:04 pm · #1045

kyskaterthe white one that you got the fender off of look at the liscense plate mount on mine the bottom part comes out and the top part is flush, on the white on it is the oppisite way the top of the liscense plate is sunken in and the lower portion is flush

**shrugs**

David BNov 14, 2009, 1:06 am · #1046

ugh. decided to make a full exuast again

boy this stuff is annoying, my 3rd exuast

still doesnt line up as i wanted to as it bolted up, but i have a solution for that

(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3765.jpg)
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3766.jpg)
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3769.jpg)

(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3770.jpg)
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3774.jpg)

in the process of repairing my passenger seat. cars off jackstands finally

JayNov 14, 2009, 1:52 am · #1047

Is the axle hitting the exhaust the cause of it falling off all the time? Or was there enough clearance for it?

Also. Where were your mounting points? More points, less likely to break.

David BNov 14, 2009, 1:55 am · #1048

idunno i dunno lol

i have the limiting straps so it wont hit it now

JayNov 14, 2009, 1:57 am · #1049

David Bidunno i dunno lol

i have the limiting straps so it wont hit it now

Perfect!

Kitty on the windshield. Lol

David BNov 14, 2009, 2:00 am · #1050

but its still like 2 inches off the ground

but wtf isnt on my car