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Heres my build on driftpa if anyone is interested, just ganna continue my build on here
http://www.driftpa.com/forum/posting.php?m...f=4&p=37823
and thats where im at now, motors out, have to get a new egnine harness, i am gann need tons of help figuring out whats what on the chasis harness... im a straight up dubmass noob when it comes to wiring.
the wiring is easy just fallow the wiring guide in the ka24de sec. do not over think the wiring, thats what i did, its not hard.
get a coulpe sets of trailer wiring kits from harbor fright $6 its nice to have the plug at the end lol then wire the beezy up & go
why did you take the motor out?
well i bought the car with the swap.... didnt do any research about s12s or KA swapp before hand... the swap was TERRIBLE. the car ran for about a month, when it began to hesitate and act up so bad i couldnt drive it. so it sat with a little bit here and a little bit there done. got it running again and before i could even start to diagnose the hesitation it fried everyground wire and my brand new msd coil.... so i decided to pull the motor an install a whole new engine harness (pulled it because it needed a new trans too 2nd gear grind) ive been reading and reading about the swap. pulled the motor last night and skipped school today to just chill. bought some supplies to relocate my battery to the rear so i can fit my dual fans when i finish them.
Deezus
daymotorsports, on modmastaz suspension thread. i was iffy on them until i asked around here, i live spitting distance away from a dirt track and its really big in my area and a few kids at school who race said they are ok to use
mine likes to act up to, one of the wires that plugs in to the ecu is loose at the pin so it likes to throw codes for a bad crank sensor but i just mess with the wires a little at it goes away.
i would imagine that getting a new harness is the best way to go. who knows what hill bully shit someone did to it. its a good time for some cleanin a?
whats the plans for the car. dd racing or both.
how much did you get the car for? if u dont mind.
ka's are great motors
im building it for DD and drift duty until i get out of school and snag a truck, then it will be a straight track car. i paid way more than it was worth but i was stupid then and wanted a car to slide / needed a car for work.. i paid 1500 for a car that was worht maybe 500. only thing good about the car is that its pretty much rust free, except for under the rear of the passenger front fender and a quarter sized surface rust spot on the drivers side strut tower.
EDIT: i think i figured out that the hesitation was a vaccum leak... everyone kept telling me that but i was like no, no, no i cant find one... well when i pulled the motor i was just looking at it and on the ver back of the motor theres a bunch of small tubes and on of the rubber tubes was split whre it went onto the metal tube... i would have never seen that with the motor in the car. so i just cut a new tube and put it on.
Deezusi paid way more than it was worth but i was stupid then and wanted a car to slide / needed a car for work.. i paid 1500 for a car that was worht maybe 500. only thing good about the car is that its pretty much rust free, except for under the rear of the passenger front fender and a quarter sized surface rust spot on the drivers side strut tower.If you were on the west coast I might agree but on the east coast finding s12's that are not completely rusted out if you can even find one seems to be a big factor with the price. Its all supply and demand. Because basically all of the 80's Japanese cars were imported into America from west coast ports and because rust over here is much less of a problem you don't have a hard time finding a Japanese car that is 20 or 30 years old. California especially is just loaded with old Japanese cars for sale. Even living in Seattle I am envious of the Californians in that aspect .
no really... the car wasnt worth what i paid. i think i was the first or second person on driftpa.com to own an s12 and since then maybe 5-6 others have popped up all paid around the sam price for a better car.
EDIT: the car might be rust free but NOTHING works, 1 door lock, hatch wiper doesnt work, hatch defrost doesnt work, no windsheild washers, headlights dont go up and down, grinded second gear, shitty swap, blown struts, no stereo, nor the wiring to install one, ecu was just jammed up under the dash out of site, interior was clean except for the doors and the rear seat.... not to mention it died after a month of driving
ya you did pay to much but i live on the west coast. the most i paid for a s12 was like $500 delivered to my house from the bay area some 4 hours away. with only 122,xxx miles. but thats how it is out here. but i think some ppl would pay that much for a running ka swapped s12. there's no way to tell if any car you buy is going to go 10 miles down the road and breaks or be the best car you ever buy. dont get me wrong. there are ways to tell, but that will only tell you so much.
i paid 1k for my ka notch...
DeezusEDIT: the car might be rust free but NOTHING works, 1 door lock, hatch wiper doesnt work, hatch defrost doesnt work, no windsheild washers, headlights dont go up and down, grinded second gear, shitty swap, blown struts, no stereo, nor the wiring to install one, ecu was just jammed up under the dash out of site, interior was clean except for the doors and the rear seat.... not to mention it died after a month of drivingNo one told you? This is just how it is owning an s12. Just of the things you listed I have between my two s12's as well: hatch wipers don't work on both, no windshield washers on both, headlight motor replaced on the 85, very worn shocks/springs on the SE, no stereo for awhile in both, ca18et was completely unreliable for a daily driver, etc etc. I think you might have overpaid a little but for a mostly rust free chassis I don't think you got completely screwed especially considering your location. Also, was the ka-de in it when you bought it or did you swap it out yourself? I can't check out the link in your comment cause you have to log in to see the thread.
quick question, would s13 headlight motors work? and no the swap was already done when i bought it... i drove it home and to work and school for about a month. the swap was terrible which is why im pulling it back out and redoing the swap.. the sad thing about it, the guy who did the swap was a mechanic.. well at lteast thats what he told me
Deezusquick question, would s13 headlight motors work? and no the swap was already done when i bought it... i drove it home and to work and school for about a month. the swap was terrible which is why im pulling it back out and redoing the swap.. the sad thing about it, the guy who did the swap was a mechanic.. well at lteast thats what he told me
Deezusand no the swap was already done when i bought it... i drove it home and to work and school for about a month. the swap was terrible which is why im pulling it back out and redoing the swap.. the sad thing about it, the guy who did the swap was a mechanic.. well at lteast thats what he told meYeah you mentioned you bought it swapped earlier in the thread I am just blind and didn't see it . Sorry about that. And yeah it looks like that guy did a number on the wiring. I hate wiring too so I feel your frustration. On the bright side once you do get the wiring worked out your set as ka24de s12's are awesome!
eventually down the road when i get some better income ill be swapping to an sr for reliability reasons, and i have a special peice for the car that some of you guys from the west coast will probably recognize.. i might post pictures but idk if i wanna let the cat out. anyway, im out the finish my fan setup and work on relocating my battery so i can fit them in.
Deezuseventually down the road when i get some better income ill be swapping to an sr for reliability reasonsThe ka24de is just as reliable as an sr20de if they are in the same condition. Who said the sr20 is more reliable? lol
im not talking about a de, im talking about a det.... everyone i know except for 1 person that has a KA has had problems with it (the one kid just got his less thatn a month or so ago) and ive only heard of a few people having problems with an SR and chances are if you have problems with your SR either you did something wrong or you got it from the wrong place lol and its soo much easier to put power to an SR
i would have to disagree. have you ever been to ka-t.org? click around a bit on that site and it may change your mind. it sure changed mine. not to mention the ka will put out more torque than the sr which will make putting around town much easier and fun. not to mention if you get lucky you can find another ka in the yard for less than 500 with a tranny. and it can make around 300 wheel on stock internals. unless you can get a kick-ass deal on a sr, i would boost the ka.
I have had 3 ka24de's and all have been great in terms of reliability. My current s13 I have owned for 3 years now I got at 130k and now has 160k+ and has only had the water pump go out in that span which is very common for ka's and sr's alike. A lot of guys hype up the sr20 like it is some super engine when it is not. For just one example: the sr20det uses inferior rocker arms while the ka24de shares the same superior cam on bucket design as the ca18det. The sr20det is a good motor however Nissan manufactured it with an emphasis on being cheaper to produce versus the ca18det it was replacing. If you want to go sr20 just to go sr20 that is fine. But these perceptions that an sr20det is more reliable than a ka24de in the same condition is just completely unfounded. A lot of the ka's you are seeing that are unreliable probably have higher miles and have been beaten by drift boys. Hardly a fair comparison to an imported sr20 with usually much lower miles.
if you look at the specs youd think the KA would be more reliable... but im talking from expirience, sorta lol never owned an SR and this is my first KA but everyone i know who has an SR has only ever had turbo problems for a blown head gasket. yes the KAs im talking about have been beaten drifting, but the SRs have been beaten even harder. this car is going to be run hard and beat hard so i want whats been proven to me as reliable. plus with a few modifications an SR can easily hit 300-350whp without touching the internals adn still be reliable.
oh and worked on my fans again today, started cutting some steal for my battery mount but lost interest,
moar pics of the setup in the car and almost finished once my phone charges
ive owned 3 ka24de great engines, my kade pulls pretty damn hard with the standard mod for a na. course ka's is not a Honda motor, you cant just throw a turbo on it and think its going to last, that goes for any Na car when you turbo it.
idk what the ppl you heard this from did to the motor. so i cant say much but, i have heard that a good ka24det will do 230hp to the wheel
check out www.ka-t.org
im not saying KAs dont make power, they make power but you have to put a lot more time and money into them to make the same power you could with just some injectors and a tune on an SR. stock kas pwn hard but thats pretty much where it ends for me. ill probably do a lightweight flywheel, some lighter pulleys if i have to replace my clutch before i go SR.
Navy_Mech2i would have to disagree. have you ever been to ka-t.org? click around a bit on that site and it may change your mind. it sure changed mine. not to mention the ka will put out more torque than the sr which will make putting around town much easier and fun. not to mention if you get lucky you can find another ka in the yard for less than 500 with a tranny. and it can make around 300 wheel on stock internals. unless you can get a kick-ass deal on a sr, i would boost the ka.
i know KAs are good engines, but with something like the SR around im getting one as soon as i get the chance lol, the KA s12 will be fun, it never ran right when i bought it so i didnt know what it had but hopefully i will soon
well its your car and you can do what ever you want, never heard of anyone taking out a kade. i think you might change your mind once you get it running right lol
ganna do some work on relocating my bettery to the rear, might cut the battery tray out and grind some cancer away.
doin work son
fabbed up a sweet battery tray for my relocation
Nice work with the battery tray I like I may have to contact you when I relocate mine lol. Coming along nicely mate.....
thanks dood. as you can see... not the best at welding but i recently discovered i like making my own things. making my own sideskirts, battery tray, fan shroud... any other ideas... im ganna try something for my interior to fix some poopy door panels.
2 peices of fabrice cut to shape, then sewn together on the outside. Spray adhesive on the back peice and the surface you want to cover, then wrap what you want to cover and hold tight until it holds. use 2 layers of fabric so the back sticks and the front doesnt feel rough from the adhesive. im ganna try it out on my center console first.
Sweet. Keep updating this with pics too. very interested to see how the interior bits turn out
Lol when I start the ka project on mine I think it will be appropriate for me to start a build thread... in time.....
you should look into a powder coating kit from summit and then get a oven off c-list for free
i dont really know much about powder coating, and the wheel was polished, and i hate polished things so i painted it and i love it so much more now lol
powder coatin is super easy looks super good. cheap too. i use a toaster oven for small stuff lol. i wish i had a bigger oven, cause i'd coat everything. just look into it
pulled out some interior
You have... BLACK interior? Do you want to sell your carpet? Is it in good shape?
Johnny Boi is right about powdercoating... it looks stupid-easy, and everyone who I know who buys a cheap kit at Harbor Freight ends up coating every fucking thing they can think of because it's cheap and easy, and looks amazing. You should see all the color combinations you can make.
oh wow, you have space next to your throttle pedal.
mine has a hump along the trans well for my exhaust clearence
i beat that shit in with a s13 tension rod. (aka awesome hammer)
yea my carpet is in great condition but i don think i wanna sell it, the ony thing wrong with it is we had to cut it to get around the box under tha passenger seat
Well if you change your mind, take pics of the damage and show me.
will do
arros been looking for black carpet forever lolol
lmao might not sell but i might be interested in tradeing for shiz
I have lots of shiz, just don't know what you're lookin' fer. PM me and let's talk.
ok wtf, site bein ghey and idk if it sent you the pm or not, i sent you 2 but it doesnt say i sent any lol. im looking for anything for the car or a ka24de
took some pictures lmao
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EDIT: Any car you see in these pictures are for sale. lol
Started putting everything back together.
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just a little more cleaning/installing
found an old green shirt i was using as a rag so i wrappedmy center console with it lol covers some scars. it turned out pretty good.
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i sprayed some "truck bed liner" on my fuel tank today t protect it, it was shownin bare metal so.. yea i dun like rust
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oh yea it was dereks birthday (yes kurt)
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oh and found this in harrisburg on tuesday lol
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