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Remote mount turbo V6 project

Started by Joel07 · Apr 14, 2005 · 686postsSMF 2010–26vBulletin 2004–05

ArroNov 7, 2008, 7:53 pm · #301

Where on the engine are you tapping for feed and return?

mcNov 7, 2008, 8:15 pm · #302
ArroWhere on the engine are you tapping for feed and return?
..the oil feed is the same port used on the 300zx turbo set up...its located under/behind the alternator...its a banjo fitting with washers....the valve cover was drilled and tapped for a 3/8"nipple hose fitting for the oil return.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0889.jpg~original)
XanoNov 7, 2008, 10:36 pm · #303

mc, is that a powdercoat or just a straight up paint?

mcNov 8, 2008, 5:37 am · #304

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0897-1.jpg~original)

mcNov 8, 2008, 8:45 pm · #305

..i took it out for a test run the other day to get some data[been a few months]....it has a new 0-60mph of 5.7sec....and was probably going to set a new low 1/4 mile time, but it blew the AFM hose connection...it was pulling strong at 12psi boost.

seishukuNov 8, 2008, 8:55 pm · #306

Put a little hair spray on the pipe then reassemble the connectors, they'll have a hard time blowing apart after that!

kris_stewart10Nov 8, 2008, 9:59 pm · #307

well when i built my turbo dsm that info would have been helpful (its a DSM for fucks sake) i blew the coolant return line off and my car ran hot and blew up ( i was doing about 140 at that time)

ArroNov 10, 2008, 1:49 am · #308
seishukuPut a little hair spray on the pipe then reassemble the connectors, they'll have a hard time blowing apart after that!

Holy shit that makes amazing perfect sense dude!

I'm gonna move this thread to the Club-S12 Garage section, it really belongs there now.

seishukuNov 10, 2008, 3:57 pm · #309

Yea, it works awesome in a pinch, especially when you don't have a tubing bead tool (I made one out of a old pair of vise grips). Pretty much glues the coupler to the tube.

mcNov 24, 2008, 9:24 am · #310

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-2.jpg)
VC200[late 80s]..accelerometer design ..it calculates HP/tORQUE/SPEED/DISTANCE/time .all through out a 1/4 mile run[or less]..I mounted it in the glove box.

..i need some of that hair spray they use on mohawks!!..the pipes will never budge!

WankelMonkeyNov 25, 2008, 12:38 am · #311

This is Awsome, glad to see somone doing a remote mount here, I was led on to the stuff that STS was doing a few years back. I was and still am to this day curious to see how well a rotary, as in my FC Turbo, would adopt to a remote mount. Good job and keep it up!

JordanNov 25, 2008, 7:50 pm · #312

I just picked up a 87 v-6 with Gopher here in Spokane. This thread has me inspired.

ArroNov 26, 2008, 1:17 am · #313

Jordan I can point you in the right direction for matching those front wheels.

XanoNov 26, 2008, 1:38 am · #314
Xanomc, is that a powdercoat or just a straight up paint?
this never got answered.
firefoxNov 26, 2008, 5:58 am · #315

definitely not powdercoated

awesome job dude.

mcNov 27, 2008, 8:59 pm · #316

..most definitely not powder-coated[LOL]...ACE HARDWARE cheap-o enamel....i pulled the valve cover off to mount the return fitting and hit it with a fast coat.

s12godDec 4, 2008, 4:29 am · #317

First i want to say thank you for doing this with your se. i have an SE also. i've been racking my brain trying to think of ways to make good power . arro tried telling me many times to read this post and today i finally sat down and read it all. I'm very impressed.
i still have to finish my vg but i would like to try this.

mcDec 4, 2008, 7:27 am · #318
s12godFirst i want to say thank you for doing this with your se. i have an SE also. i've been racking my brain trying to think of ways to make good power . arro tried telling me many times to read this post and today i finally sat down and read it all. I'm very impressed.
i still have to finish my vg but i would like to try this.

..thanks for the complements[everyone]..i did all the easy n/a power upgrades[300zx AFM/ECU,Stanza t/b and electric fans,2.5" exhaust,CAI, but none of that compares to bolting on a turbo.
...i like my set up and think of it as the nastiest cat back exhaust system on the planet!....and dont worry about the lag,its a built in traction control system!!
ArroDec 4, 2008, 12:22 pm · #319

yeah man we need some videos of your car. Yours is quite possibly my favorite SE, and if I ever found a killer deal on an SE (automatic or otherwise) I'd be strongly tempted to buy it and do this the same way you did.

s12godDec 4, 2008, 1:33 pm · #320
Arroyeah man we need some videos of your car. Yours is quite possibly my favorite SE, and if I ever found a killer deal on an SE (automatic or otherwise) I'd be strongly tempted to buy it and do this the same way you did.


if i ever decide to sell my se i will let you know first arro. it is all black
mcDec 17, 2008, 11:30 am · #321

I picked up a Fluke 51 II DIGITAL THERMOMETER...its going to allow me to take accurate intake temperatures under boost...i'll mount the probe just before the T/B inlet...it should be intersting to see what boost temperatures are with the remote turbo...the Fluke has a peak hold function so it will store info without having to watch the meter.

200sxkitcarDec 17, 2008, 12:45 pm · #322

Sweet!  I'm very curious to see this data...

ArroDec 17, 2008, 12:52 pm · #323

Hey man after you take measurement temps at the TB, you should put it after the turbo's compressor outlet, and see how much of a temp drop you get down the length of the pipe.

mcDec 17, 2008, 1:04 pm · #324

...GREAT TOOL...THE SENSOR HAS A 0.3SEC RESPONSE rate....AND can record 32-1400 deg F...I'll be recording pre and post IC,ON/OFF ALKY injection aswell.

ArroDec 17, 2008, 1:06 pm · #325

This will settle the question of do you need an IC for a remote-mount or not.

WilkieDec 17, 2008, 3:13 pm · #326

Is there any way to make some sort of electric belt-driven turbo spooler for when the exhaust pressure just isn't cutting it?

Could be on some sort of clutch-based system so that it kicks out when the turbo spools past a specific RPM range as to not burn out the motor.

This would probably help with the lag.

mcDec 18, 2008, 11:11 am · #327

..here is a pix of the new thermocouple mounted in the elbow that feeds the T/B...the meth/alky spray nozzle is visible to the rear.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-4.jpg~original)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-3.jpg~original)

ArroDec 18, 2008, 1:52 pm · #328

MC, so is the thermocouple before or after the spray nozzle in the airpath?

I really hope you do take temps from both the beginning and the end of the pipe.

mcDec 18, 2008, 2:19 pm · #329

..the TC is after the alky nozzle...this way it can record all variations[ALKY on/off...IC fan on/off]....i plan on mounting it in the rear but its going to have to wait till spring,its to cold now to be laying under cars.

ArroDec 18, 2008, 2:25 pm · #330

Fair enough... if you can, mount it right *before* the IC, too, so you can see how much temp before/after IC, and how much temp coming out of turbo and before IC.

mcJan 2, 2009, 11:25 am · #331

...my latest Ebay steal...its going to replace the small weak windshield washer pump i was using to pump the alky injection.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/021.jpg~original)

...ON/OFF SOLINOID..MCMASTER-CARR
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-15.jpg~original)

mcJan 6, 2009, 3:02 pm · #332
mc...my latest Ebay steal...its going to replace the small weak windshield washer pump i was using to pump the alky injection.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/021.jpg (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/021.jpg)
i finally installed the Shurflo pump today, to test it,i placed the misting nozzle in a clear plastic container and activated the switch,it works great...a really steady fine/FOGGY mist is made by this strong pump[100psi]...this pump has seals that handle both alky or meth....i might use the old windshield washer pump as a sprayer for the IC after the winter.
demonic s12Jan 7, 2009, 2:01 am · #333

what kind of tires are you running? as well as clutch?

im curious to what kind of performance you could pick up with more rubber

mcJan 7, 2009, 1:07 pm · #334
caraudiofoolerywhat kind of tires are you running? as well as clutch?

im curious to what kind of performance you could pick up with more rubber
215-60-15 all around....its the clutch that came with the car...the prior owner says it was replaced,and it holds pretty decent...i would like to upgrade it.
demonic s12Jan 7, 2009, 1:23 pm · #335

i see

i just remember when you posted 1/4 mile times, you said your 60 foot time wasnt so good due to traction issues...

do you think its possible to break into 11s with good rubber and less weight? maybe more boost?

mcJan 9, 2009, 10:37 am · #336
caraudiofooleryi see

i just remember when you posted 1/4 mile times, you said your 60 foot time wasnt so good due to traction issues...

do you think its possible to break into 11s with good rubber and less weight? maybe more boost?
i dont think i'll get there on my low buck build,but i'm sure it can be done...sticky tires and a LSD unit...upgrade the turbo/clutch...give it a better driver,i suck at launching a stick car!!
mcJan 13, 2009, 7:52 am · #337

...its a bosche bov...1" in/out...i'm going to mount it pre-IC.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/boschebov001.jpg~original)

mcJan 17, 2009, 1:06 pm · #338

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-4.jpg~original)
...spliced in the bov...mounted pre-IC.

RB25sx - SLPRJan 17, 2009, 3:03 pm · #339

Any particular reason why you ran such a long tube to the BOV away from the charge piping? Why not extend the vacuum line instead?

-Dan

mcJan 17, 2009, 5:16 pm · #340
RB25sx - SLPRAny particular reason why you ran such a long tube to the BOV away from the charge piping? Why not extend the vacuum line instead?

-Dan
...i didnt have a longer section of vacuum line in my collection of junk parts...its all temporary.
mcJan 18, 2009, 2:30 pm · #341

...i took the car for a drive and it really pulls hard ...it likes the alky injection,no sputtering,it just revs under boost...i need to pick up better quality hoses because they are balooning with this Shurflo pump.

seishukuJan 18, 2009, 2:33 pm · #342

Water injection at those pressures should only be done with proper semi-rigid poly tubing, like what's available from Dayco or Parker.
Also uses the nifty push lock fittings, makes changes real easy.

mcJan 19, 2009, 7:59 pm · #343
seishukuWater injection at those pressures should only be done with proper semi-rigid poly tubing, like what's available from Dayco or Parker.
Also uses the nifty push lock fittings, makes changes real easy.
..i like those push lock fittings,no need for tools to disassemble....i picked up some fuel injection hose and clamps...its not a problem anymore.
seishukuJan 19, 2009, 8:05 pm · #344

FI hose works too, nice hose.
It's just too expensive if you're doing a trunk mount pump/tank (like I have), but then again, I use the push lock tubing for vacuum hose too (runs my BOV, wastegate, water injection boost switch, etc).

mcJan 26, 2009, 7:48 am · #345

..i found a problem with the AFM being converted to a push through design in that the cover plate was being pushed out from the boost...i carefully pried out the plastic cover and scraped away the old sealant...i used JB Weld to seal it in place for good.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-5.jpg~original)

cannan89Jan 26, 2009, 2:06 pm · #346

Wow, I just spent the last two hours reading all of this and all I can say is that's a SWEET setup! Well done, with lots of good ideas!

mcJan 30, 2009, 12:28 pm · #347

..I've been having alot of problems recently with hoses blowing off with the cheaper hose clamps,anything over 10psi wasnt holding anymore.,, these listed in the Mcmaster-Carr catalog...under 5.00 each...rock solid at 12psi again.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-6.jpg~original)

ArroJan 30, 2009, 12:47 pm · #348

yeah T-bolt clamps are the only way to go with forced induction.

mcJan 30, 2009, 2:42 pm · #349

..i was able to tap into the AFM harness to check the output under various rpm...its a 300zx AFM[84-89 version],test was run in neutral/no boost data yet...i believe its a 0-7.12 volt output.
RPM   AFM VOLTS
800   2.53
1500  2.79
2000  2.99
2500  3.09
3000  3.24
4000  3.50
4500  3.60

mcFeb 4, 2009, 8:25 am · #350

..i tested the 300zx AFM output under 10-12psi boost and its 5.76-5.85 volt range.